Mumblings and rumblings after vital losses this weekend is making me grumpy this morning !
First we hear mumblings from Peter de Villiers that the Travel-factor has assisted in the loss of the Bokke, this past weekend. Then we hear from the Bokke skipper, John Smit, that the Bokke simply do not know what went wrong!
Hey, Snorrie & John, do not start the Traveling Circus up… accept that the Bokke lost to a fiercely motivated Ozzmob side, who threw everything at a lazy Bokke side this weekend.
Blue Bulls, same applies to you… no moaning about Pro Legoete or the fact that so many of your stars are at the Bokke !!
The Bokke and Bulls suffered exactly the same fate on Saturday, they were pummelled in the scrums, with their tight heads taking serious strain. Werner Kruger, the Bulls No 3, popped out like a cork in almost every scrum… as a Bulls supporter it was agonizing to watch and endure. John Smit, Bokke captain and tight head, did not do much better, popping up and out on regular occasions.
Both John and Werner seemed to make the same mistakes, going into the hit far too high AND with bent backs.
The plea today is for a scrum doctor to assist the Bokke as soon as possible.
The plea is also for the Blue Bulls to appoint a scrum doctor and fix the problem, else to get the injured Frik Kirsten to replace Werner Kruger as soon as humanly possible.
Remember how we scoffed at WP’s front row, barely 6 months ago? What has changed? I’ll tell you what has changed…. Mathew Proudfoot, the WP scrum doctor has performed miracles with the WP front row and his cause has considerably been helped by getting 2 decent locks, Anton van Zyl & Chris Jack to pack down behind the WP front row.
Face it folks, rugby is still a game won by those who fire up the engine room… the fatties in the front row, the tall fellas in the second row and those scavengers in the back row.
It appears from utterings today, after practise by the All Blacks, that they are licking their lips to give the Bokke scrum a full go on Saturday. They should also be equally motivated as the Wallabies were this past weekend, because they are still smarting from the losses they took against the Bokke.
Bokke, get you head space right, focus, sort out the scrumming this week !
Bulls, you have another biggie on Saturday, the Sharks! The same applies to you, this week you need to dig deep, this week your props, hookers & locks need to stand up and say, no more nonsense!
Ahhh, it feels better already, having gotten this off my chest today!
Goooooooooooi Mieliessssssssss !
@grootblousmile – @grootblousmile – koop ma vir caldo terug swaer.of gaan kyk na die bobbies of likkewane of enige van die carltn spanne jul gaan iemand kry da wat die pyp sal rook
GBS
Kan jy onthou Frik Kirsten was op my troue? Of het jy hom toe nog nie geken nie?
62@Supa Die Bloubul – Ek het hom toe nognie geken nie…. en die geheue issie meer wat dit moet weesie….
Sharks still top the log in the CC. WP on the same points.
60 @grootblousmile – as dit so is, wat dan van Guthro op haker ?
@bdb –
Wat is dit met jou dat hy almal uit posisie wil speel?! P3 slot en Gurthro haker…leer jy niks uit die Kuun skuif nie?
65@bdb – Hou bietjie vir Guthro dop oor wat ek kwytgeraak het oor sy tegniek….
Ek sou eerder vir Jaco Engels convert na haker toe, hy is damn beweeglik (hy was eers ‘n flank, tot so 3 of 4 jaar gelede)… en erg werk aan Guthro se tegniek… of dalk selfs vir Guthro oorskuif vaskop toe waar hy nie kan links uit skrum nie….
Maar ek is nou nie, soos hulle sou sê, ‘n voorryspesialis nie…. flanke en agstemanne is my spesialisgebied.
@bdb – Dit was balie se laaste game en 5 min voor die einde toe gee hy die ref n rooie vir n strafskop en toe gee die ref die kaart terug toe maak balie nie sy laaste game klaar nie
@Puma – 64
Morning Puma
@smallies72 – 68
hehehe ek onthou daai voorval – skreeu snaaks gewees!
Couldnt agree more, I am sure they will graft their arses off to get it right and I would be surprised if the little Kiwi prop makes as much of an impact as Robinson does. I dont think the boks will play as badly again and I dont believe the wallas will ever play as well again. Their best performance against our worst performance by some distance. They will get moered by the Kiwis coz they always do and be back to square 1 again.
I understand that if they didnt win at least 1 match they would be relegated from the tri nations and replaced by Argentina so they were playing for their survival. If only….
What really pissed me off was that LSD with the whistle ignoring Smit and treating him like a school kid — the worlds longest serving skipper and World Cup winning captain should (like all captains) be afforded time to query decisions. If FDP hadnt got an arm under Genias try, Barnes would have been in k*k as Genia hadnt tapped correctly and there would have been a massive stink about the legality of the try. Oom Paddy would have to admit that Barnes had got it wrong and he would have been packed off to referee Macedonia vs Guatemala or similar. It might not be in the rules but courtesy and proffessional should dictate that its common sense. Smit is not a bullsh*tter and had a legitimate query.
66@Supa Die Bloubul – Dit is een ding om van ‘n loosie ‘n haker te maak (baie groot verandering), nie almal slaag daarmee nie (dink Gary B was ‘n goeie uitsondering). Makliker vir ‘n stut om haker te word en andersom (vra vir Bands). Dit is ook makliker vir ‘n groot loosie om slot te speel (vra maar vir Danie, en vir Pedri wat in 2003/4 vir die Bulle met groot sukses daar gespeel het).
Dus, dit is nie ‘n probleem om van posisie te verander nie, dit moet net ‘n goeie skuif wees. Ek wil nie graag spelers uit posisie speel nie, maar as jou skrums nou al vir 2 tot 3 jaar na mekaar sukkel, ‘gemiddeld’ is, nooit domineer nie, baiemaal heeltemal uitmekaar uit val, dan dink ek dit is dalk tyd om te soek na moontlike oplossings. En dalk is deel van die oplossing om Pedri in te skuif op stut in Steenekamp se plek (maar, die bokke is amper terug, so dit sal seker nie gebeur nie).
Dalk is GBS se voorstel dalk beter (vir die toekoms): Engels kan in ‘n goeie haker ontwikkel.
@SA Barbarians – balie se verskoning na die tyd was dat die kaart geval het en hy net die ref atent daar op gemaak het dit was komies gewees.ma sy gesig het iets anders gese.hy was n regte stoutgat
72 @bdb – “op stut in Steenekamp se plek”
Op ‘slot’, op ‘slot’ !
Net voor ek raas kry dat ek van Pedri ‘n stut wil maak. 😉
@bdb – kuun moes n loosie gebly het toe straus huis toe gekom het moes die bulle eerder bele het in iemand soos willie wepener of tiaan liebenberg,n regte vattie kakie hakker eerder as om kuun te convert
72@bdb –
“En dalk is deel van die oplossing om Pedri in te skuif op stut in Steenekamp se plek”
P3 is nie n stut of n slot nie. P3 het minstens 6 jaar laaste slot gespeel. Hy speel self nie te waffers deesdae nie en was ook nie n great slot destyds nie. Dan werk ek eerder met n jong ou.
Engels is ook al 29. Kuun sukkel al twee jaar om n haker te word en ons het nie daai tyd vir Jaco nie. Kyk vir JS ook, hy sukkel ook om die skuif te maak net soos Kuun. Ons moet nou maar werk met wat ons het tydelik en n ordentlike skrum spesialis inkry wat daagliks met ons werk en so gou as moontlik n ander stut en haker probeer kry. Gary Botha, BJ, CJ of iets. Nader daai ouens, hulle sal almal wil wereldbeker toe gaan oor twee jaar.
Ek glo nie die probleem gaan uitgesort word met ons huidige spelers in andr posisies nie. Ons kort iemand van buite, n nuwe sterk stut of n ou ervare stut of iets. Dalk maak Kirsten dit, ons sal moet sien. Maar dis n probleem!
74@bdb –
hehe..ek sien nou…dog wragtig jy vat dit te ver om P3 in Guthro se plek te wil speel!
We cannot blame the ref or the opposition scrum for scrumming against the laws, when we look at our own scrumming performance.
The first order of business at scrum time is to make sure that you scrum technically correctly so that the opposition are the ones under pressure, and they are not able to put you under pressure whether that is legal or illegal.
Good scrumming, like good loose forward play lives on the edge of the law.
You get away with what you are allowed to get away with on the day.
If we coached props to scrum 100% to the letter of the law, they would get murdered!!
@tight head – scrumming is the most tecnical part of the game.it also have some secrets that are not mentioned in any rulebook.you only learn them from getting blomkool ore ,i.o.w. on the field against live opnonents.
@smallies72 – As ek reg onthou was die Ref in daai voorval Andre Watson gewees en nie Tappe nie.
@Polla – hi dit mag wees ek kan nie so lekker onthou ni
Tappe sou dalk vir Balie ‘n Kopskoot gegee het!
@Polla – ek dink tappe sou dalk daai toetsie dop hy was nou nie die grootste ou op die veld nie
@smallies72 – Het julle onlangs gesien hoe lyk ou Balie nou? Hy is nou meer ‘n 250ml botteltjie as ‘n Balie!
@Mieliepapmike – 71 I looked at it a 2nd time & it seemed to me that Genia’s tap was legitimate. It was academic anyway because FDP ripped the ball away.
@tight head – 78 Right on Tighthead. Never a truer word spoken.
Ja, GBS stem saam. Ek dink die Bokke het moerse pap gelyk. Oor die Bulle is ek nie te erg ongelukkig nie, want dis ‘n redelikke jong span.
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