Stormers (14) 21 / 60 (34) Chiefs (Final Score)
The DHL Stormers and Chiefs did battle in a Super Rugby 2016 Quarterfinal at
DHL Newlands, Cape Town at 19:00 SA Time (17:00 GMT, Sunday 05:00 NZ Time).
This was the live match discussion Article.
The match was broadcast LIVE on SuperSport 1 & M-Net on TV in SA.
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Scorers:
Stormers:
- Penalties – 0
- Drop Goals – 0
- Tries – Vincent Koch (2), Nizaam Carr (1)
- Conversions – Robert du Preez (2), Brandon Thompson (1)
Chiefs:
- Penalties – Damian McKenzie (2)
- Drop Goals – 0
- Tries – Sam McNicol (1), Brad Weber (1), Tom Sanders, James Lowe (1), Damian McKenzie (1), Hika Elliott (1), Tevita Koloamatangi (1), Tawera Kerr-Barlow (1)
- Conversions – Damian McKenzie (7)
Teams:
DHL Stormers |
Chiefs |
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Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant Referees: Jaco van Heerden (South Africa), AJ Jacobs (South Africa)
TMO: Johan Greeff (South Africa)
New Zealand sides and individual players just know better what to do with hte ball… due to their ball skills and option taking…
No wonder the Lions also do well, because they are the side in the world who plays the closest style to that of all New Zealand sides…
@ Pietman:
you too Piet. Was a pleasure.
Gaan geniet ou boet.
Mallett bemoaning the Competition structure… says it is flawed… and of course he is perfectly right!
@ grootblousmile:
Yes. So we should have at least 10 Lions players in the next Springbok squad or we are doomed. I’m not joking.
124 @ Tassies:
For sure!
The whole starting front row of the Lions, Franco Mostert, Jaco Kriel, Warren Whiteley, Faf de Klerk, Elton Jantjies, Rohan Janse van Rensburg (now there is a strong and fast inside centre), Mapoe, Ruan Combrinck…
Forget De Allende, Kolisi, Mbonambi, Ntubeni, Frans Malherbe, Schalla.
Also forget Beast, Coenie die Boef, Garth April, Lwazi Mvovo, JP Pietersen and Willie le Roux…
Also forget Jesse Kriel, Jan Serfontein…
My Springbok Group would look something like this:
Props: Dylan Smith, Trevor Nyakane, Julian Redelinghuys, Vincent Koch
Hookers: Malcolm Marx, Adriaan Strauss, Akker van der Merwe
Locks: Pieter-Steph du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Franco Mostert, RG Snyman
Loosies: Jaco Kriel, Warren Whiteley, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, Francois Louw, Duane Vermeulen (last 2 hesitantly due to them playing outside SA)
Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk, and one of Ross Cronjé or Rudy Paige
Flyhalves: Elton Jantjies, Pat Lambie (needs game time 1st though)
Midfield: Rohan Janse van Rensburg, Lionel Mapoe… and maybe Francois Venter
Back 3: Ruan Combrinck, Courtnall Skosan (because he already fits into the Lions style attacking pattern), Travis Ismaiel and hisitatingly Willie le Roux or Jesse Kriel.
Semis now confirmed.
Lions v Highlanders in JHB.
Hurricanes v Chiefs in Wellington.
Bring on the heatwave, jetlag and altitude.
Oh. And gooo Chiefs.
grootblousmile wrote:
Damn good squad.
Can’t help feeling the Bulls would have done better than both the Saarks and Stormers this weekend.
Battery now like the Saarks and Stormers.
MOERTOE.
Lekker slaap almal.
Fok. The Captain DOES taste like champagne tonight.
Red and white dynamite……
128 @ Scrumdown:
2 Absolutely murderous games!!
Hurricanes vs Chiefs is going to be immense!
Glad the Lions play the Highlanders… with the strong Lions pack, they can be one over the Landers pack… and in the backs the Lions have the ammo to counter the Landers too! But that too will be a hectic game!!
This massacre came as no surprise.
It is also no surprise that Steven Nel wrote this morning in a local newspaper that the Stormers must obtain the services of a decent flyhalf before the will be able to compete at this level. He wrote the same piece before the season started but it fell on deaf ears.
It will fall on deaf ears again. Next season Fleck will persist with clowns (at this level) like Coleman, Jean Luc du Plessis or Robert du Preez…..and the Stormers will yet again get nowhere.
It is all very predictable….
Well done to Louis Meintjes on making the top 10 in the overall classification of the 2016 Tour de France. It is the best performance by a South African in the history of cycling and also the first time any African reach the top 10 in this race that is one of the most renowned sporting events in the world.
132 @ robzim:
Hi robzim what seems a bit odd is that you have a flyhalf who was considered SA’s best at U20 level a few years agoas well in Brandon Thomson what has happened to his development is he not more of a specialist at the position than the other two youngsters or has he just not stepped up to this level yet? You also have Rhyno Eksteen who you bought from the Blue Bulls how has he been doing? Maybe you just have too many inexperienced flyhalves at the moment – 4 in their early twenties and maybe you could do with recruiting a very experienced one to fill the gap until the players develop enough to get to the required level. Although they should have picked up some valuable experience this season and maybe you see the benefits of this next season. Has another problem not been injuries this can make it hard for continuity and sometimes it takes a player a while to get back into full stride after injury. Have not watched the Super rugby so ask have you got the best scrumhalves giing these flyhalves the best service as this will make a difference too.
Hi Bullscot.. Thomson is still around but only had very limited opportunities off the bench as Fleck preferred du Plessis. IMO Thompson is streets ahead of him in terms all round quality. Du Plessis is a “flair” player who is very inconsistent ( the very poor man’s Carlos Spencer) and not the type of flyhalf who win championships so imo Fleck is backing the wrong horse and wasting time…
I am not sure what happened to Ryno Eksteen as he also did not play for the Currie Cup team.
The latest talk in the newspapers is that they want to send coaches (Fleck) overseas to learn from the experts so its the same old rubbish propaganda over and over ….basically I have given up on this lot ever winning a super rugby tournament.
robzim wrote:
Before last week, the Lions last made a SR play off in 2001.
I got involved with the GLRU in 2006, already there was a feeling of despair.
Eventually, it was left to the people in the Union to force change where it was needed.
It took nearly a year of secret meetings and discussions every week to force that change at the top to happen.
We even went so far as to having the GLRU constitution changed so that Kevin de Klerk could stand as President.
Then of course there was a not insignificant matter of arranging an EAGM.
Eventually KdK was elected President on 29 July 2009, BUT, we failed to get rid of all of the bad apples that were still in the barrel. Something that would hamper the Union for a further 3 years until the CEO was forced out.
The moral of it all, is that the RUGBY PEOPLE in the Cape are the only people who can bring about the required change, and it is a long and drawn out process that takes time, money (prom a personal point of those involved) and a willingness to work hard at it.
In the end, it CAN pay dividends, as the Lions are now demonstrating, but IT IS NOT GUARANTEED.
I suspect that one of the things that will hamper change in WP circles is the fact that they are financially sound.
At the GLRU we were basically bankrupt so HAD to force change.
All in all though, if WP / Stormers don’t do something, there won’t be any change in the philosophy, and consequently no change in the results.
Of course, this is just my opinion, and as I point out, what the hell do I know?
@ Scrumdown: Read this with great interest SD. I recall the recent history you are recounting. It did seem to me, in the early stages, that Lions rugby was irretrievable after Luyt. But…….witness what has been achieved. Remarkable really. Today the Lions are a totally different prospect. Well respected and attracting a whole continuum of new supporters/admirers(myself included) and all on the back of persistence and patience in the build-up. Just goes to show what can be done when guts, determination and hard work are applied. Damn I am impressed.
@ Scrumdown:
and well done on a humble appraisal of things you were involved in. That’s how I expect people to behave. Respect.
Good & interesting posts, guys.
@ Scrumdown:
A good read Scummy.
It will be Your Lot Vs My Lot in the Final. (In My Humble Opinion)
I however, cannot take any credit for effecting any change within the Hurricanes whatsoever. Well done.
And I mean this sincerely…………”If my Canes don’t win the Title, I hope your Lions DO”.
I have never ….ever…… supported an Overseas Team against a NZ Team of any description…………………………….Ever.
But Lions supporters have been so loyal and patient.
They deserve it. (unless we win of course, because we have also been loyal and patient)
😎
@ Scrumdown:
I always had a great deal of respect for Loffie Eloff.
He never made excuses and told it like it was.
Weekend Games:
Canes by 14.
Lions by 8.
Final……………………………………..Canes by 19
😛
@ Tassies:
Thank you.
My involvement was but a small part.
Because I had inadvertently got involved with a small struggling club situated in what was previously a “coloured” community close to my house, when I was elected Club Chairman, I automatically became a member of the GLRU Chairman’s Council.
The fact that “regime change” was bought about and the dividends are now being reaped is nice, but IMO what my involvement really achieved was the change in attitude of a Rugby mad community who felt there was no hope of improvement, that the Union didn’t want them, and that every other club and Ref’ was against them.
I set about changing mind sets and work ethics, as well as self belief, and within 3 years turned the club into a competitive entity in the league we were in, winning a couple of junior championships (U19 & 21), and competing in our first ever senior team league final.
I’m not sure who gained more, the club and community, or myself and family.
It was a humbling experience and at the same time exhilarating.
Rugby Development is in my opinion more important than any other aspect of this wonderful sport we all love, not only here in JHB / East Rand, but WORLDWIDE.
If only more of us Rugby “lovers” would make an effort to get down and help an “underpriviledged” club with some help, it would go a long way to helping this great sport grow in the right direction.
It doesn’t have to be coaching, many of these clubs have skills (and infrastructure) shortcomings in many areas that many of us take for granted.
E-mail, printing facilities, help in typing and sending official communications etc. Sh1t, even an extra hand on game mornings to help paint the field lines is a major blessing that everyone who comes to watch just takes for granted.
I could go on all day, but won’t.
Suffice to say, sometimes it is more rewarding watching a “no hope” U19 b team eek out a win on a dustbowl pitch against more fancied opponents, than watching a resurgent Provincial side romp home to victory.
Saturday afternoon we see the tip of an iceberg! That’s all.
@ cane:
Thanks Cane.
Will be a tall order for the Lions to win the competition, but we look at the Foxes in England, and realise that anything is possible.
Loffie was, and I believe still is an honest person.
Many people forget that he lead the South African under-19 team to world championship victories in 2003 and 2005, so he can’t be a k@k coach.
Good luck for your team tomorrow morning. I’m sure you won’t mind me backing the Waikato boys, but if my Lions can’t win it, it is surely the ‘Canes time?
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