The Vodacom Bulls, need a complete rethink of their game approach and selection criteria, after a loss on the weekend against the DHL Stormers once again exposed why the Bulls will keep struggling.
The answer is simple… scrum penalties are destrying Bulls chances left, right and centre – and 1 prop in particular, Dean Greyling, cost the Bulls the difference between a win and a loss on the weekend.
No less than 9 easy penalty points can directly be ascribed to Dean Greyling’s inability to scrum correctly and legally. It is not a new thing either, he has picked up a plethera of scrum penalties in the last number of seasons and his general scrumming technique at loosehead prop has always been severely flawed. He is simply put, a scrumming liability, and is exploited at scrum time week after week by every Tom, Dick and Harry who plays against him!
Dean picked up 4 crucial scrum penalties on the weekend, but Marcel van der Merwe also picked up an additional 3 scrum penalties. That means 7 scrum penallties, which were either put into points against the Bulls or which robbed them of valuable possession and territory.
In anybody’s book, bar maybe in the crumpled “Book of Fools & Favourites” of Bulls coach Frans Ludeke, it is seen as a HUGE problem!
Things looked radically better in the 2nd half, when Morné Mellett was at loosehead prop and Trevor Nyakane at tighthead prop.
In addition to the clear prop and scrumming conundrum at the Bulls, one needs to start questioning the validity of continuing with Deon Stegmann at openside flank, as he is also a huge penalty offender! When Lappies Labuschagne replaced Stegmann at openside flank and Arno Botha replaced Jacques du Plessis at blindside flank, the Bulls suddenly entered their most productive and least penalized period of the match and the ground ball and breakdown situation control swung nicely in favour of the Bulls, so much so that the Bulls effectively ‘WON’ the 2nd half battle on the scoreboard, by 10 points to 3 and coming within a whisker of stealing the honours at the end of the game.
If these basic and fundamental aspects are not fixed, and immediately so, one can already start writing “Also-Runs 2015” on the shirt of every Bulls player and on every Bulls supporter’s jersey, alongside that tag which is already emblazened there for 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014!
Big Scalps needed:
The weekend defeat at Newlands means the Bulls will have to claim some big scalps on tour to make the Super Rugby play-offs this year.
The Pretoria outfit now face a tough scrap to play knock-out rugby this season with their Australasian tour featuring matches against the Blues, Chiefs, Brumbies and Melbourne Rebels still to come.
Frans Ludeke’s team lost all 4 of their games on their overseas tour last season, and if they do manage to win some away games and make the play-offs in 2015, it seems likely that they will have to travel some more.
Ludeke said that the narrow defeat to the Stormers had simplified the equation for his team, starting with their last game at home before the tour against the Lions next week.
“It is actually easy, we need to go and win away on tour. Obviously 1st of all we have to get back on the horse against the Lions at home.
“The tour will look after itself, if you look forward it is vital and you definitely know that it is going to be crucial.
“We have got a different finish from all the other seasons with 4 away games, but we are looking forward to it,” he said.
The Bulls coach said that while he was frustrated with the inconsistencies at scrum-time, he was encouraged by the way his side were able to put the Stormers’ line-out under pressure and credited ‘technician’ Victor Matfield for his input.
“The pressure we applied at the lineout gave us some field position and we just needed to convert that into chances to score.
“They are working as a unit and really starting to apply some pressure there, it is satisfying,” he said.
Bulls captain Pierre Spies said that with his side finishing stronger the charge down of Handré Pollard’s last-minute drop-goal attempt had been particularly tough to swallow.
“I think if he put it over it would have been great, but if we look at it now if we had held on to the ball for a few more phases I thought we could have gotten away with a penalty somewhere or we might have gotten a try.
“Those are the chances in a game and obviously the Stormers have a good defence but I thought we put them under pressure when we ran at them,” he said.
(rugby365)
Scrum Rethink:
The Vodacom Bulls know if they have to fix 1 thing this week, it has to be their scrum.
Saturday’s narrow Vodacom Super Rugby loss against the DHL Stormers exposed the frailty of their setpiece once again, along with the folly that coaches believe they can get away with a prop who is a ball-carrying specialist as opposed to one that can hold his own in the setpiece.
The Bulls leaked at least 9 points from the scrum – and their props Dean Greyling (4) and Marcel van der Merwe (3) – were responsible for most of the penalties against them.
Things were steady in the 2nd half with the appearance of Trevor Nyakane and Morne Mellett, but by that time the die had been cast.
There has been a lot of anger in the Bulls camp regarding Jaco Peyper’s 2nd half performance, when he allowed the Stormers props to scrum in and not set square in any scrums, but by then the referee had already made his mind up about who was infringing in the scrums.
While it brings up a separate debate about the impact of the setpiece and referee interpretations, the Bulls know all too well the difference between winning and losing a contest like this was squarely their setpiece’s fault.
Bulls scrum coach Wessel Roux has done a lot of work in the past few years, taking the Bulls away from their mantle as the most penalised scrum in the competition to one that has performed admirably this season.
But most of that has been because of personnel. The introduction of Trevor Nyakane at tighthead has been an unexpected bonus and has made the former Free Stater a much more valuable proposition than the Bulls had anticipated.
While it has worked to Nyakane’s advantage, the question must be asked if it is fair to the Bulls prop to be moved between loosehead and tighthead all the time. He did initially struggle when going back into his former position at Newlands.
Yet the desire of the Bulls to play a ball-carrier in Greyling cost them dearly, as it has so many times before in past seasons, and this time the indiscretions were easily turned into points.
That isn’t saying Greyling doesn’t have his strong points. A good defender and a strong ball-carrier he is, but scrumming is his primary job and the way the Stormers got the upper hand on the Bulls’ scrum should be cause for concern for any team.
There is a belief that the Bulls strongest scrum is Nyakane back at loosehead, with Van der Merwe at tighthead, but the Bulls have shifted their props around so much this season that this combination has hardly played together at all.
Instead, they have chosen to use Nyakane at tighthead for most of the matches, often playing him above Van der Merwe and getting good work from Nyakane in the process.
However, the business end of the competition is fast approaching and the Bulls have already learnt the hard way that the margin for error in the competition is minor. A slip-up from a kick-off against the Lions cost them victory in that game, and at Newlands it was simply Greyling’s indiscretions in the scrum.
While on a lot of occasions the referee interpretation has a lot to do with it, this weekend it was simply solid 1st half domination from Frans Malherbe, Stormers tighthead prop.
Bull coach Frans Ludeke admitted that they will need to look at the scrum again – but made the point that they didn’t get the reward in the 2nd half.
“We will have a look at ourselves,” Ludeke admitted about the scrum.
“There were times that we were offside with the referee and times when we should have got the reward. That’s all you want is consistency in decision-making. In the end we had them under huge pressure. They were standing up and folding in, there were hands on the ground, but that is the nature of the contest.”
Ludeke made mention that the Bulls didn’t get the reward, and especially in the 2nd half there were a few scrum penalties that clearly could have gone the other way.
Peyper had made his mind up by then, and the Bulls suffered as a result.
But the Pretoria side knew the strength of the Stormers’ scrum, and could have selected a stronger starting unit, so they have only themselves to blame.
(SuperSport)
Fitness Report:
Vodacom Bulls stalwarts Victor Matfield and Jan Serfontein both returned to the training field on Monday as the team prepare for their Vodacom Super Rugby match against the Emirates Lions at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday.
Matfield is back in action after a medical procedure on his knee and will be considered for the weekend, while Serfontein, who was a late withdrawal against the DHL Stormers due to a hamstring niggle, will also be ready to take his place.
Rudy Paige and Jacques-Louis Potgieter is still out of action due to a knee injury and hamstring strain, but should be fit to travel with the team when they depart for their Australasian trip on Sunday.
Pierre Schoeman (knee, 15 July), Bandise Maku (pectoral, 31 July), Carlo Engelbrecht (ankle, 31 May), Werner Kruger (ankle, 11 May), Duncan Matthews (knee, 31 August), Ruan Steenkamp (knee, 31 July), Ryan Nell (knee, 31 August) remains on the long term injury list.
27 @ nortie:
Yeah… and I want the Bulls to rectify their scrumming shortcomings… it has now been long enough that there is a scrumming problem!
… and I want the blatant favouritism in selections to stop, full stop!
I would not throw the Super Rugby trophy out the window yet as far as the SA sides are concerned. Some aspects of the Canes play has been exposed recently, as have the Chiefs play.
That it would be difficult for any of the SA sides to win the whole damn thing is for sure but any of the sides ending No 1, 2 or 3 have good prospects or should I say a good chance to win… because then it’s down to a game at a time… and in rugby anything can and will happen in those circumstances, specially considering the amount of away wins we see in Super Rugby in 2015.
20 @ MacroBull:
The criticism of Greyling goes back for a long time, but one of the points I am making is the Koch also has given away lots of penalties this season but until a few weeks ago I was blissfully unaware of this as all and sundry were raving about what a good prop he is and not saying anything (that I can recall) about him being a penalty machine, it was only when I stumbled on a stats site that I realized gosh this guy has given away a lot of penalties and was quite high up in the Super rugby list for penalties conceded.
Koch will have many years still ahead of him but at 25 he is hardly a spring chicken (yes I know the old adage of props developing well into their 30s).
30 @ Victoriabok:
Nee, gaan net so nou en dan soontoe vir n giggel, veral soos die naweek as die poepe hulle klop 😆
28 @ Victoriabok:
A couple of years ago (at the semi-final the Bulls lost to the Brumbies at Loftus) I asked Frans Ludeke directly at the after match Press Conference why he insisted on starting with Dean Greyling and Werner Kruger, whilst the props on the bench actually outperformed them game after game.
The usual crap was answered again… something to the effect that the replacement props were good impact players off the bench.
Now we are a few years past that scenario… and we still see the same shit happening… and we keep getting the same freegin shitty results!
31 @ grootblousmile:
My money is still on the Chiefs, as it has been since before the tournament even started….still believe they have what it takes
35 @ nortie:
I think the Hurricanes & Chiefs should be considered favourites to win it.
None of the Aussie sides impress me in 2015… not the Waratahs and not the Brumbies (recently).
The Stormers have a real chance, I think.
The Bulls and Lions are prospects but I do not think the Lions have it in them to go all the way.
22 @ nortie:
There will always be things seen through the glasses of a supporter but I have seen a lot of negative stuff written about the Bulls there too and in some cases downright spiteful stuff, so am afraid need to differ you on this one nortie.
Getting back to the Stormers game and the points made that I quoted could you answer – 1. was the description of what happened in the lead up to the 3rd penalty against Greyling accurate – did Ruan Botha fall with his knee on Greyling and also push his head into the ground right in front of the referee and got away with it?
2.The poster mentions the Bulls getting a free kick in the 64th min for the Stormers engaging early in a scrum, did this happen? I have seen penalties given for this many times, Scotland get pinged for this especially in games against Wales who have perfected the art of getting the ref to think the opposition have engaged early.
3. Did Burger put in a high tackle on Nyakane and get away without being penalized if he did?
Remember I didn’t watch it so am now checking with you the oppostion. But I may try and find a replay of the game sometime in the next month so don’t tell any porky pies
@ Bullscot:
The people on that site who are not full blooded cheerleaders who’s glasses are so full it spills, are usually deemed traitors.
Regarding the match….I watch games with one eye reading and one eye on the TV every so often.
I go sit outside and have a smoke or 20…..usually when the commentators sound like they are having a heart attack due to some excitement, I will go take a look at what it is that excites them.
Honestly, to watch a full 80 minutes, I can’t think of anything more boring. Mostly I’m happy if the result is more or less what I picked as my prediction…..I hate that last 5 minutes when I’m right in with the score and some idiot goes and scores a try…..especially those that happen after the 80 minutes are up
How do you know a plane load of Bulls’ supporters have arrived?
The whining keeps on long after the engines have been switched off
@ nortie:
38
It’s a process most fans in SA have been going thru since 2011while watching the SR!
Reasons are:
1. Increase of the derbies portion at the expenses of cross ocean matches against NZ and Aus team
2. Increase the number of SARU referees in charge of matches in SA,
Don’t cry for the Bulls but they were skinned by Peyper, it was a common knowledge well before the game, a fair game for the ‘Looters’ but little interest elsewhere 😉
Trevor Nyakane is the Beast’s understudy as Bok #1; Jan Serfontein is the incumbent Bok #13.
Ludeke should stop his shit and play the Trev at #1 & Jan at #13.
Frans, support your players, & support the Bokke.
Bullscot wrote:
Correct,
and Peyper often allowed premature contesting at scrum time during this match, robbing the team being awarded a scrum of such advantage.
Not to mention the tighthead the bulls got right at the end and broke on the blind side then peyper called them back for a reset scrum.
The bulls had their chances to win but itsno wonder the populariry of rugby is dwindling because of the scrum and ruck laws.
@ Angostura:
Korrec this would also be best for the Bulls nut Ludeke is too dumb to see it.
Greyling cost the Bulls the game Ludeke will never learn. As for Nortier bleating about Bulls fans moaning about Peyper his tjommie Robzim has been crying about Peyper for years.
😆
@ gunther:
Dean Greyling is the new Brock Harris.
Does very little except give away penalties.
@ John Galt:
Agreed he’s howwid.
Hiya MacroBull
re your numerous previous comments about Aaron Smith (& Rudy Paige), I thought you might enjoy (& rightly feel vindicated) by the opinions expressed in this (imo good) article:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/68088495/reason-perenara-faces-challenge-from-weber-and-drummond-for-world-cup
@ gunther:
Don’t feel too bad, we have Fatt Stevens swanning about on the bench every week.
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38 @ nortie:
You rascal you side stepped that one nicely
48 @ Angostura:
Hey Angos
They didnt even bring it up that aaron smiths kicking game is unmatched.
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