445 Responses to Cricket: South Africa vs West Indies – 3rd 5-Day Test (2 January – 6 January 2015)

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  Nama on 7 January 2015 at 7:42 pm

  @ MacroBlom:
  #384: I know we’re not gonna play two spinners together except maybe for the fact that Duminy will bowl a few as well.

  #387: More importantly for me is the fact that Robbie P has taken 10 wickets at an average of 27 and an economy rate of 4.8 IN Aus and NZ.

  We lose out on someone with a proven track record IN the two countries where the CWC is being held awa someone with previous experience of playing in the tournament.
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  Nama on 7 January 2015 at 7:49 pm

  @ MacroBlom:
  6/8 in the local derbies. (all 4 at home & 2 away)
  3/4 against the visiting teams at home.
  2/4 on tour.

  That’s 11/16.
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  Nama on 7 January 2015 at 8:21 pm

  Very interesting to read the following in an interview that Ashwell Prince gave:

  SJ: You were a middle-order batsman, but in that Test against Australia in 2009, you were made to open. You were given the captaincy, but you didn’t have the option of where you can bat in the order.

  AP: How do you know all these things? You got the story spot on! I had a strange message from the convenor of selectors at that time, Mike Procter. He said, “I have got good news and bad news. The good news is that we want you to play and captain the team. But the bad news is that you have to open the batting.” I called him back and said, I am obviously happy to be back in the team and delighted you guys are considering me to be captain again, because I had once stood in as captain before on a previous tour [in Colombo] when [Graeme] Smith was injured. But if you are making me the captain, I am batting at No. 5, because that is where I had batted and had the most success in my career. If you are telling me that I have to open the batting and I can’t bat at No. 5, then you have to find a different captain.

  I was only prepared to be captain on my terms, which I think is fair enough. I don’t think any other Test captain in the world would be told, “You have to open the batting.”
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  MacroBlom on 7 January 2015 at 9:21 pm

  I guess with the attack by those “filthy muslims” high ranking politicians and royals implicated in child prostitution will be yesterdays news. 🙄
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  ryecatcher on 7 January 2015 at 9:25 pm

  @ MacroBlom:
  Hi Pal.Feck them.May their promised 72
  virgins all be male.
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  MacroBlom on 7 January 2015 at 9:34 pm

  @ ryecatcher:
  I was being ironic, it is just weird that every country in the western world about these “filthy cowards”, it just feels so hmmm orchestrated. All it served was to contribute to more hate towards muslims. and less fear from terrorists. It will only bolster the right wing agenda.
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  Charo on 7 January 2015 at 9:36 pm

  @ ryecatcher:
  Hey Rye,

  Hope you are enjoying the new “Spicey” RT on this thread.

  Amla must be the new opening batsman for the Proteas. At least until one of the other new guys get more confidence.
  There is no other player in the squad with the same concentration and application – not by a country mile.
  To put someone like Stiaan v Zyl or Q de Kock in that position is madness.
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  ryecatcher on 7 January 2015 at 9:40 pm

  @ MacroBlom:
  9/11 Al Quaeda,hamas,
  All christians and Jews must be killed.
  Ironic indeed.
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  ryecatcher on 7 January 2015 at 9:45 pm

  @ ryecatcher:
  But that is a debate for another day.
  When said by non muslims it is hate
  speech,which is infra dig on this site.
  Regards.Rye
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  MacroBlom on 7 January 2015 at 9:48 pm

  @ Charo:
  whoever it is will play in bangladesh, one of the safe havens of top order batsmen in recent years. Will be a relatively “easy” transition.

  @ ryecatcher:
  The Attack today had nothing to do with Christians though?
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  MacroBlom on 7 January 2015 at 9:49 pm

  @ ryecatcher:
  True that, this is a rugby/cricket/youtube music website.
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  ryecatcher on 7 January 2015 at 9:54 pm

  @ MacroBlom:
  Lets not fight pal.Even “ironically”.
  You raised the subject.
  Regards.Rye
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  MacroBlom on 7 January 2015 at 9:56 pm

  @ ryecatcher:
  nothing worth fighting over 😉

  As a shark would you feel happy with bissie as captain?
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  ryecatcher on 7 January 2015 at 10:02 pm

  @ MacroBlom:
  Hell no my friend.His game has deteriorated(in almost exact proportion
  to (censored)since being made captain.
  Keep well and kind regards(and apologies for agression)
  Kind regards.Rye
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  ryecatcher on 7 January 2015 at 10:32 pm

  @ ryecatcher:
  Lambie has all of the required
  attributes.Regards.Rye
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  grootblousmile on 7 January 2015 at 11:25 pm

  397 @ Charo:
  What New “Spicey” R-T?

  Rugby-Talk is what it’s always been, no change or shift in attitude!

  The rules here are simple: No religion, no insulting family members or jibes about family members, no politics, no racism, no trolling and generally… have respect.

  Some of the comments about the unfortunate French incident today came close to crossing the forbidden line (I have to give some leeway though), but I was not in attendance at the time… and will tollerate no bullshit.

  I will draw the line, I will decide… that’s the way it has been and where it will be. My discretion on these matters has served Rugby-Talk well over the years!

  Goontie already got a warning today and no matter who it is, whether it’s Oompie Rye, MacroBull or you or whomever, I will not let anybody overstep the line.

  Pity that a tragedy in France illicits responses geared towards certain groupings… it’s not on at all!

  So, a general warning to everybody… please toe the line, people, stay at the party… that is what works here on Rugby-Talk.com!

  There’s often a fine line between political / religious opinion and grossly offending someone or some group – so, the general rule of thumb is to stay on the safe side. I’m not discouraging debate or being too strict, we have purposely averted the Voldy-type bullshit by simply implimenting simple and easy to follow rules, which basically only comes down to sensitivity and general decent behaviour – no more, no less.

  We live in a diverse country and in a diverse world…. and we tollerate, respect and encourage THAT here on Rugby-Talk!

  The FIFO rule applies… Fit In or Foertsek Off.
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  ryecatcher on 8 January 2015 at 6:25 am

  406 Hello pal.Your rebuke,however mild,refers.
  A careful reading by you of what was
  said will reveal that I did not initiate
  the debate.
  I am perfectly entitled to respond to criticism of Western civilisation.
  Insofar as insults are concerned,it is
  common cause that suicide bombers
  expect to be rewarded with 72 virgins.
  You cannot on the one hand refer to
  somebody as a tail gunner and then reproach other people for their comments which you have incorrectly
  deemed as insults.
  And BTW 9/11,SSCole and countless
  other despicable acts did happen.
  Once again this is common cause.
  Is it politics to mention them,or must one be silent and pretend that these
  incidents did not not happen?
  I believe that you are wrong.I do not see any insults,only facts in my article.
  In any event,I mentioned to Macro Blom that we should not enter into
  the realms of hate speech,and we
  ended our discussion fairly cordially.
  I also find it a bit rich that you can
  refer to somebody as a “tail gunner”
  with impunity and virtually in the same breath condemn insulting comments.
  Rudi,It is your site,which I usually enjoy.If you disapprove of my standing up to you,then let the dice fall where they may.
  Kind regards.Rye
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  ryecatcher on 8 January 2015 at 6:37 am

  Rudi 407 There is a distinction between
  terrorism and politics.
  Regards.Rye
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  Scrumdown on 8 January 2015 at 7:30 am

  Insofar as GBS makes up the rules, which up until now have worked well, there are very large grey areas that Rye rightly points out.

  It is a fact that we live in a world where the western world accepts and tolerates the nuances of faith based groups from the east, but where that same tolerance and acceptance is not reciprocated.

  I see big sh1t comng in certain parts of the world where the type of incident that happened in Paris yesterday serves only to give European thugs the reasons needed to start kicking the f*ck out of young (and perhaps innocent) Moslems on the streets of cities like London, Paris, Vienna and Dresden. (To say nothing of cities in former Soviet block countries)

  As sports lovers, for us to stick our heads in the sand and hope that it will go away is just plain stupid.

  In SA there is “freedom of religion”, perhaps it’s time for “freedom FROM religion”.

  Enough said.
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  Scrumdown on 8 January 2015 at 7:34 am

  ryecatcher wrote:

  There is a distinction between
  terrorism and politics.

  Unfortunately the one perpetuates the other, and at some time in a terrorists lifecycle, there is every chance that he will become a politician.

  Those of us that have lived in SA for longer than 25 years must certainly recognise this as fact?
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  Angostura on 8 January 2015 at 8:00 am

  “… In following him, I follow but myself;
  Heaven is my judge, not I for love and duty,
  But seeming so, for my peculiar end:
  For when my outward action doth demonstrate
  The native act and figure of my heart
  In compliment extern, ’tis not long after
  But I will wear my heart upon my sleeve
  For daws to peck at: I am not what I am.”
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  MacroBlom on 8 January 2015 at 8:04 am

  @ grootblousmile:
  My post was more in frustration with world media, Charlie Hebdo (the magazines’ offices that were attacked by the alleged Muslims) makes such a loaded “statement” on free speech to portray Mohammad… The same magazine where one of the satirists was fired for satirizing Jews and was labeled as anti Semitic.

  Now the entire world is up in arms like it is a fashion statement about this “Attack on free speech”.

  I just see through the hypocritical bullshit.
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  MacroBlom on 8 January 2015 at 8:04 am

  Alas, Ill put this discussion to rest.
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  Scrumdown on 8 January 2015 at 8:11 am

  413 @ MacroBlom:
  Whilst this particular forum may not “allow” for debate of this nature to take place, (and indeed whether or not is the “right” place to do so is in itself debateable), surely it is imperative that debates such as that between yourself and others here on RT on the matter MUST take place?

  Maybe just not here.
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  ryecatcher on 8 January 2015 at 8:35 am

  @ Angostura:
  Hello Ango.From this day forth I shall be known as Iago.”Je suis ce que je suis”

  Regards Rye
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  Charo on 8 January 2015 at 8:52 am

  @ grootblousmile:
  406
  Hi GBS, actually I was referring to the good banter over our CWC side when I said it was “spicey”.
  I type slowly on a small tablet so my post only appeared after the Paris terror attack was mentioned.
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  Scrumdown on 8 January 2015 at 8:54 am

  ryecatcher wrote:

  Je suis ce que je suis

  As are all of us,

  Woe betide those of us that bow down to political correctness and swallow the cr@p that is force fed to us on a daily basis.
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  MacroBlom on 8 January 2015 at 8:55 am

  @ Scrumdown:
  Well I get where GBS is coming from, yes this is part of our daily lives and in our general thoughts, we are also more free to open our opinion on these kind of formats, and in this political debate we have been pretty civil and with decorum, but it wont always be like that. It is better not to have GBS come in and say what is allowed and what isnt, forcing his own bias on to some of us.

  There are other forums, very few though are strictly moderated to adhere with civility and decorum.
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  ryecatcher on 8 January 2015 at 8:57 am

  @ MacroBlom:
  Hello friend.I,ll put the question to you.What do you think of Lambie as
  captain.?
  Regards
  Rye
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  MacroBlom on 8 January 2015 at 8:59 am

  Charo wrote:

  @ grootblousmile:
  406
  Hi GBS, actually I was referring to the good banter over our CWC side when I said it was “spicey”.
  I type slowly on a small tablet so my post only appeared after the Paris terror attack was mentioned.

  cant you get a bigger tablet.