Agustin Creevy
Argentina captain Agustin Creevy revealed on Friday a plan for fielding a full-strength international side when they join the southern hemisphere’s prestigious Super Rugby competition in 2016.
The move would rob European clubs of several leading players but would strengthen Argentina at Test level.
Super rugby organisers have already confirmed an Argentinian side will join the competition when it is expanded to 18 teams as the International Rugby Board pushes to expand the sport in South America.
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Creevy said Argentina’s vision was to keep all their top players together rather than continue with the fragmented situation they currently face.
Head coach Daniel Hourcade “wants us to play all the year together,” Creevy said on the eve of Argentina’s Rugby Championship Test against the All Blacks.
“It is going to be very, very, important because all the members of the team are going to know each other better by playing all year together and we are going to profit as a team.”
More than half of the Argentina squad playing in New Zealand are overseas based, including Creevy who is with the England side Worcester.
A return home to play Super rugby would eliminate their current clashes between club and Test commitments, and Creevy said the benefits would likely outweigh any financial loss from giving up their lucrative European contracts.
“It’s going to be a dream to play Super rugby. It’s something I want,” he said.
“Even though I have not talked to the (Argentina Rugby) Union about the conditions to play Super rugby I will support the idea to be there.”
But Creevy hedged on how powerful Argentina, currently the 12th ranked side in the world, would become if the squad was together all year round for a year before the 2019 World Cup.
“First we are thinking of the game tomorrow, then next year the (2015) World Cup. Even though we can probably say the team will be fine for 2019 first we have a World Cup next year.”
They don’t play their “best” test side in real tests, but want to play them in Super Rugby?
No wonder they are languishing where they are on the world rankings
@ nortierd:
“More than half of the Argentina squad playing in New Zealand are overseas based”
“A return home to play Super rugby would eliminate their current clashes between club and Test commitments”
Makes sense?
@ MacroBok:
Let’s see how they think….when real tests are played in June, they rest their 1st team (hence their ranking), but now they are considering playing their 1st team for 18 odd weeks in a provincial tournament?
Ja right, they are bright boys.
I don’t really care what they decide to do, as long as a team loses 16/18 tests, they won’t win the ones that count, the loser culture is too far ingrained.
@ nortierd:
Well if their goal is to have most of their squad together in a year I don’t know why that is so stupid lol
And I highly doubt the Argie players have the same leverage some players in the bok team have when negotiating contracts.
Having one team will have its issues in drawing more players, but their end goal is respectable.
@ MacroBok:
I do wonder what excuses the resident Argie lovers will use when the test side loses to franchises and fail to win a Provincial tournament.
Remembering that the old “all the best players are in Europe” excuse won’t count anymore.
@ nortierd:
well apparently it works for us
@ nortierd:
lol nortie. You ate so conditioned to believe that any discussion about the argies is an attempt to try and talk them up due to our poor last two weeks. even from neutral sources.
What is so bad from including them into sanzar competitions? So purely evil that they and everyone who wants them to play and improve are dose.
They are in a truthfully unique situation, if they want to play their best available local team why not? They will surely be more competitive than the kings and rebels at least.
@ MacroBok:
No issue with them playing wherever they are put in.
Don’t see the romance about them though, so they had a semi decent World Cup 8 years ago, then got caned in the semi.
Since then, everyone has been bending backwards to help them, yet they have regressed, even with all the breaks they have been given.
Still some fawn over them?
I’m just not one of them, that’s all.
To me they are a second rate rugby country that, like France, get lucky every couple of years by winning a test ( or in their case, come close to winning a test)
I’m not an Argie supporter so I don’t see the need of talking them up to mask our inadequacies against them.
I still believe we should klap them by 20 plus on a decent surface with decent weather, that’s all.
@ nortierd:
either way it should be our responsibility to atleast attempt gaining more competitive teams? It has nothing to do with our recent results against them emoboy 😀
Nothing in this article mentioned anyone talking them up regarding our recent results. ..
Conditioned/brainwashed? 😀
@ MacroBok:
Not talking about the article
Talking about the way some bloggers carried on about how good they have become and the excuses about why they are 12 etc etc
As I said, to each his own, some like and rate them, others don’t.
MacroBok wrote:
It should actually be our responsibility to get our own teams more competitive and out of the bottom 5, not give a toss about what happens in the other countries 😆
Then again, having the Argies there will at least mean we can win an extra game, which is a positive thing
12 @ nortierd:
And, add the Kings, and boom, we have 2 additional wins already in the bag.
Bring on 2018 😆
@ nortierd:
well I still maintain that they definitely played like a team better than twelth… Though we SHOULD beat them comfortably so banging on 12 is meaningless… every one has already moved faaaar passed that, your the only one holding a grudge like a girl for no reason at all. We ate playing Australia now and hopefully we will put up an improved performance.
The most improtant thing looking forward now is that Argentinia (other than taping into an american timezone for the future) is probably the only RUGBY decision SANZAR has taken in years not driven by money… and that is good.
12 @ nortierd:
That’s SARU, they are a bunch of headless chickens.
Sixes final on SS7
@ MacroBok:
I’m not banging on about it, I’m saying they deserve where they are because they don’t treat test matches with the respect it should be treated with.
They will field their best team in a Provincial tournament, but not in a proper IRB sanctioned test?
Their ranking means squat, they are also rans and will never win a tournament of note, they don’t have the temperament for it and because they are so used to losing (because of THEIR decision to disrespect tests), they won’t win matches against decent opposition because their players don’t know how.
If they played their best team every test, they could be as high as 6 or 7 in the world, but they don’t, so they aren’t.
That is the reality.
MacroBok wrote:
Cool, thanks
Titans klapping a huge score
Yawn.
MacroBok wrote:
25 runs an over, lol
Dis hectic
How small are those boundaries?
Not too much of an effort to hit a six
@ nortierd:
The thing is they are really in a different situation to everyone else in the world. Very few other countries lack the exposure they do so they approach building depth differently I guess I dont know.
But to attack Every thing they do is pretty lame of you to be honest.
At least they play their best team in the RC. They could easily take the cowardly way it and start a South American tournament and thump Chile, columbia and brazilian amateur teams, but they choose to play against the best.
Titans 126/1 in 5 overs
22 @ MacroBok:
Good for them, I wish them nothing but joy and success in their future endevours.
Morne van Wyk starting like a house on fire
23 off 5 balls
Dolphins getting the 25 runs needed in the 1st over, need four more similar overs
jeepers. 43 runs coming?
davids “pulled it back”
Dolphins batting at 32 runs an over
@ MacroBok:
Awesome stuff this
Hulle bliksem die arme boulers iets verskrikliks
these bowlers have no chance bowling si mamy full tosses… kak bowling
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