Having had a disturbed night’s sleep, and having blasted Romain Poite and his co-match officials here on Rugby-Talk, during and after the Rugby Championship match yesterday, it is fitting to have a look at what rugby analists, the rugby media here and abroad (including those from New Zealand), have to say.
Firstly, let’s look at the SuperSport media panel who sat during and after the match, with Nick Mallett (fromer Springbok coach) and John Mitchell (former All Blacks coach) the key ingredients here, augmented by Naas Botha (Former Springbok Captain) and Ashwin Willemse (former Springbok wing).
Both Mitchell and Mallett slammed referee Poite, point blank, so too Naas Botha and Ashwin Willemse.
Here’s a video exerpt of what these fine gentlemen had to say:
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Similar lines of thoughts were forthcoming from the studio guests analising the match for the viewing public in Europe and in New Zealand.
Let’s have a look at the incident itself:
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Now what do the esteemed journalists, rugby scribes and players accross the world have to say about this?
Let’s start with South african scribes:
JON CARDINELLI (SARUGBYMAG.CO.ZA)
‘Poite’s decision was based on an overwhelming reaction from the partisan New Zealanders in the stands. The crowd wanted Du Plessis off, and Poite obliged. It was gutless, and one would think that Poite will have a lot to answer for when fronting his bosses next week.’
ZELIM NEL (INDEPENDENT GROUP – SA)
‘The French referee allowed the crowd of 48,000 – and millions of TV viewers – to witness an even contest for just 32 minutes at Eden Park before reducing the crunch Rugby Championship Test to a sham … Carter was buried in a tackle that was not only legal, but of rare, premium quality. The partisan crowd blew up in unfiltered outrage and convinced Poite to ignore repeated slow motion replays on the big screen that clearly showed the behemoth hooker had delivered a legal hit.’
GAVIN RICH (WEEKEND ARGUS – SA)
‘Referees these days appear to be far too quick to brandish cards, and they’re having a massive impact on results … No doubt rabid All Blacks supporters will be happy about what happened, but most sensible people from both sides will probably feel like I do – cheated. The All Blacks celebrations were surely rendered hollow by the knowledge that they were playing 15 against 14 for more than half the match, and if they watch the replay of the first Du Plessis incident, which the referee had a chance to do on the big screen, then they will know that he was sent off for a hard but textbook tackle.’
LOUIS DE VILLIERS (RAPPORT – SA)
‘Pwat. Só spreek jy Romain Poite se naam uit; daai klank wat ’n skeidsregter se bakkies seker sou gee as jy ’n dwarsklap teen sy smoel plant. ’Skies, dis ongeskik. Maar dié Franse ploert se fluitjie was die uitstaande kenmerk van gister se Toets in Auckland tussen Nieu-Seeland en Suid-Afrika om die Rugby-kampioenskap, ene wat die tuisspan met 29-15 gewen het.’
CRAIG RAY (SUNDAY TIMES – SA)
‘Actions have consequences and that decision [to give Du Plessis his first yellow card] had awful ramifications for the Boks later on. Poite’s sub-standard officiating will also have ramifications for the rest of the tournament as the Boks are now four points behind the All Blacks in the Rugby Championship standings. But it will almost certainly have no consequences for Poite’s refereeing career.’
DAN RETIEF (CITY PRESS – SA)
‘Poite’s shocking rulings, especially in the first half, robbed the Boks of the massive presence of their hooker Bismarck du Plessis for 48 minutes of the match and completely spoiled what might have been a spectacle.’
RUDI GELDENHUYS (RUGBY-TALK.COM – SA)
The result of the game remains a contrived result, with match officials clearly at fault and to blame. I do not say New Zealand, it’s rugby fraternity or supporters are complicit.
The result is a flawed one, that much is clear! A flawed result which stays etched in rugby history for ever, it is there, it is recorded, despite the fact that it is wrong and unjust!
I do not have to condone, respect or recognise such a blatent blight.
I watched the whole match again, I watched the replays of the incidents and I still cringe at the ineptness of not only the referee (as main culprit), but the lack of clear direction from the TMO and other match officials.
A travesty is what we witnessed! To condone it would be wrong.
Now over to what the New Zealand scribes had to say:
LIAM NAPIER (FAIRFAX MEDIA – NZ)
‘The performance of French referee Romain Poite robbed the contest of its superstar status … Fed on a diet of spinach-flavoured biltong, Du Plessis is Popeye in disguise. Naturally, when Carter received a hospital pass and the big Boks rake simultaneously, he crumbled into a heap and slinked from the field with an AC shoulder injury that will keep him out of action for four to six weeks. The subsequent decision to sin-bin du Plessis, though, was a shocker. It was a legal tackle. Arms were used. Sense should have prevailed.’
WYNNE GREY (NEW ZEALAND HERALD)
‘The red card had a massive effect on the game. Adding to the significance of it all, Bismarck du Plessis was having an absolute stormer. There seemed to be two of him – he was all over the park but especially good in the tight stuff, winning a couple of crucial turnovers with his strength and timing. And he scored the Boks’ first try.’
MARK HINTON (SUNDAY STAR-TIMES – NZ)
He described Poite’s decision to dismiss du Plessis as “farcical” and said it tilted the match in the All Blacks’ favour.
“The hooker’s shoulder-charge on Carter looked dodgy, but replays showed the hit was legit and that referee Romain Poite had over-reacted big time,”
DAVID LONG (FAIRFAX MEDIA – (NZ)
The first yellow card “was an extremely harsh call on the Sharks No 2, as his tackle on Dan Carter was perfectly timed and legal”.
Former All Blacks captain Sean Fitzpatrick, in his Herald on Sunday column, said he also felt the tackle on Carter was legitimate.
He questioned why “a referee can have that much influence on a game with so much (video) technology available” to review the incident.
GREGOR PAUL (Herald on Sunday – NZ)
Carter was “fair game” and du Plessis had been onside, but he felt that the South African had deserved a red card for the second offence alone, when he rammed his elbow into the throat of Liam Messam.
“The first offence was not a yellow, although what Bismarck du Plessis did with his head looked bad. But the second offence was a straight red. Seriously bad.”
PATRICK McKENDRY (APZN – NZ)
How much effect did the red card have on the outcome?
A massive one. Adding to the significance of it all, Bismarck du Plessis was having an absolute stormer. There seemed to be two of him – he was all over the park but especially good in the tight stuff, winning a couple of crucial turnovers with his strength and timing. Scored the Boks’ first try.
Was the red card justified?
No, because his tackle on Dan Carter was legal. The spotlight for the decison to sin bin him must fall on referee Romain Poite, who appeared to dismiss the advice of his TMO George Ayoub. However, once back on the field, de Plessis should have reigned himself in a little. The elbow to the windpipe of Liam Messam wasn’t a good look.
What Rugby Players had to say:
DAN CARTER (TWITTER – NZ)
Nothing wrong with the tackle. Fell awkwardly and popped my AC joint #gutted #smashedembro.
FORMER ALL BLACKS CAPTAIN TAINE RANDELL (NZ)
Fans have been robbed of the crunch game of the year.
Writing in his column for Fairfax Media, Randell said: ‘Romain Poite’s officiating ruined last night’s Test between the All Blacks and the Springboks, a game between the world’s two best sides.
‘I am so disappointed with the way a number of controversial decisions, which still don’t make any sense to me, dictated the game.
‘Bismarck du Plessis’s yellow card for a legitimate tackle on Dan Carter was totally unfair, his second yellow which led to red was also marginal and as a fan I’ve not been able to watch the best of what we’ve got, against the best of South Africa.
‘Last night’s game was not decided on equal measure and at this level of the game, that is not acceptable.’
Leaves a totally rotten taste in the mouth, does’nt it?
Super, that type of behaviour does us no favours and merely confirms the Saffer stereotype in the eyes of the world.
In this electronic age everyone is a member of the media and everyone is an ambassador. It might be good to remind persons who so readily assume these roles that they come with certain protocols
@ grootblousmile:
I understand now that it was foolish of me to call for some level-headedness while passions are still running so high. I am certainly not criticising your handling of this blog and trying to change anything. I have always praised your devotion, passion and handling of the blog and still stand by it 100%. A sense of “us against them” or “if you are not with us, you’re against us”, easily arises in times such as these and I seemed to have gotten in the middle of it. My intention was only to try to get guys to “cool it” or tone things down a little, not to criticize people or make people feel bad over what they may have said. What we write on the blog is permanent and available for anyone from anywhere in the world to read. If we have pretensions to being an international blog, we would need to be a bit more circumspect. If we just want to remain a little “family” then that is a different case. The comments section of almost all OTHER blogs on the topic of this rugby match is filled with vitriol, name calling, insults and all kinds of abusive language; keo for example. It normally starts with something small and then escalates and escalates as people retaliate to a perceived slight with insults of their own and then becomes a full out flame war. Here on R-T we don’t have many kiwi or ozzie supporting bloggers and thus things haven’t got the chance to escalate so far. I am not trying to imply that you, GBS, are not able to manage the situation or that you would permit things to go that far. However, you are only human and in the heat of the moment, with passions running high, I thought to just add a note of caution and bring your attention to it. Perhaps I have harped on the comments too much and you feel I made too much of it. During the game thread, I tried to keep things to the ref but felt a little uneasy with some of the comments and was concerned that SOME people might have been offended. The day after, our kiwi blogger indeed wrote that he had been offended and he labelled this blog as the same as all the other saffer blogs. I think this comment was a bit unfair but this prompted me to raise the issue. That’s all I was trying to do. Maybe I didn’t put my point across well enough and caused people to get their back up. For that I apologise, but not for my intentions.
@ Timothy Bornman:
I am sorry for seeming to harp on some of the comments during the game thread, mate. I fully appreciate that emotions were running high and we are all human and can say things we later may regret, me included. As I said in my response to Smiles above. I was just reacting to our kiwi blogger who took offense. He may also not have been 100% justified, but if we are going to just point to the other guy, then where will we end up. I think to have a respectable and successful community doesn’t require not making mistakes but being able to admit to them. It has been a difficult time for us Bok supporters…
@ The_Young_Turk:
Cheers mate. Lets have a beer on this one, laugh about it and learn from this. Its done and dusted. Nothing we do now will change what was said this weekend.
fender @ 25
aaaaah you mean the-one-who’s-name-we-must-not-mention!! (where’s a spitting emoticon when you need one?)
Ja Ash, dis hoeka daai jong….
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