In this Article we look at the contenders for FLYHALVES at the Sharks 2013 Super Rugby group.
FLYHALF – this is the position the Sharks now have the most depth they have had in a long time, even with the departure of the French general, Freddy Michalak.
The Sharks are in a position where they at least always have parity at scrum time and for the most part should win the breakdown clashes! This allows for their halfbacks to be more involved in games and they are also able to set up running lines and control games more effectively.
The Sharks have potentially six good pivots at their disposal, with three of them being natural flyhalves! Patrick Lambie is at present the Springbok incumbent flyhalf and Butch James a former Springbok who has a World Cup medal, a thing not many flyhalves can boast.
I, for one, believe Patrick Lambie is in for a bumper year with the likes of Francois Steyn on his outside as well as some mentoring he would be getting from a very experienced Butch James. All bodes well for the Sharks at pivot.
The Contenders:
Patrick Lambie:
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Patrick Lambie will as always attack the gain line, he will defend like a demon, he distributes well and is most of all a very calm player that more often than not takes the right options. Lastly his kicking game is extremely good.
Schooled at Michaelhouse and capable of playing flyhalf, centre and fullback, he was the leading points scorer in the 2009 ABSA Under 21 Currie Cup, despite only turning 19 later that year. He represented South Africa at Under 20 level and was utilized extensively as the first choice fullback during the 2010 Under 20 World Cup in Argentina.
Lambie joined the Sharks senior team setup in the 2010 Super 14 season, where his debut was spent in the fullback position. He was moved to centre in the 2010 Currie Cup and due to injury was required to fill the flyhalf berth. Due to his natural talent and unwavering nerve he made the position his own and was integral in helping the Sharks reach Currie Cup success in 2010, scoring 2 tries, 3 conversions and 3 penalties in the Sharks’ 30-10 win over Western Province in the final of the tournament. He was awarded with the “Man of the Match” award in the Currie Cup final. Lambie was also the second highest point scorer in the Currie Cup.
He was called up to represent South Africa during their 2010 tour to Ireland and the United Kingdom. He made his Test debut against Ireland on 6 November 2010, at flyhalf after Morne Steyn was substituted in the second half, where he promptly converted a try on debut. He has also started against the Barbarians team for the Springboks at fullback, but this is not calculated as an official international Test. Patrick Lambie was Michaelhouse’s first South African rugby player in their 115 year history.
His Career portfolio to date is as follows:
- 2012 – South Africa Castle Outgoing Tours – South Africa The Castle Rugby Championship – The Sharks ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division – South Africa Castle Incoming Tours – Sharks Vodacom Super Rugby
- 2011 – South Africa IRB Rugby World Cup – The Sharks ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division – Sharks Vodacom Super Rugby – South Africa Castle Tri-Nations
- 2010 – South Africa Outgoing Tours – Springboks Outgoing Tours – Sharks ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division – South Africa IRB Junior World Championships – Sharks XV Vodacom Cup – The Sharks Vodacom Super 14
- 2009 – Sharks ABSA Under 21 Competition – Sharks ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division – Sharks Invitational XV Absa Currie Cup Compulsory Friendlies
- 2008 – Kwazulu-Natal U18 Coca-Cola Craven Week – SA Schools SA Schools – U18 Elite Squad Elite Squads
- 2007 – SA Schools SA Schools – KZN U18 U18 Coca-Cola Craven Week
TEST RECORD
| OPPOSITION |
P |
W |
D |
L |
T |
C |
PE |
DG |
PTS |
| Australia |
4 |
1 |
0 |
3 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
4 |
| England |
4 |
4 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
3 |
0 |
11 |
| Fiji |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| Ireland |
2 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
3 |
0 |
13 |
| Namibia |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| New Zealand |
4 |
1 |
0 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| Samoa |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| Scotland |
2 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
3 |
0 |
11 |
| Wales |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
Butch James:
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Again many supporters will welcome him back at the Sharks in 2013 and many will say he is too old and to this and too that, but Butch showed this past season that he is still a quality player and still has quite a bit to offer. With his return to the Sharks there are many reasons why it is a good move – he played 80% of his rugby at the Sharks where he grew up before spending some time at Bath in the UK as well as a short stint with the Golden Lions in Johannesburg.
Butch is a more then handy back- up flyhalf in case an injury should happen to Patrick Lambie or should rotation of players be required. It is after all a very long arduous season coming up and will without doubt be very taxing on the players.
James was schooled at Maritzburg College.
Although his first names are Andrew, David, he has been known as ‘Butch’ since his grandmother gave him the nickname as an infant. In the case of butch we delve a bit deeper seeing as he has had a very long career and it is interesting to see how his journey has been to date.
Sharks career
James played for the Sharks in the Currie Cup and for the Sharks in Super Rugby. He has twice played in a Super Rugby final for the Sharks, being on the losing side on both occasions. In the 2001 Super 12 final, the Sharks lost 36–6 to the ACT Brumbies with Butch James missing four penalty attempts in the first half and in 2007 they lost 19–20 to the Bulls.
His career with the Sharks and the Springboks was hampered by injury. In 2002, his appearances were restricted, following knee surgery. In the 2004 Super Rugby season, he played in every game for the Sharks and looked certain to be recalled to the national squad until an injury to the cruciate ligaments of his left knee, 12 minutes into the last game against the Stormers, ended his season and kept him out of rugby for six months.
Despite his history of injuries, James has a reputation as an aggressive tackler and excellent place kicker. Early in his career he was frequently penalized for dangerous tackles, particularly tackles above the shoulder, with a swinging arm, or without the use of the arms. In only his second Test, against France, he was cited and suspended for an off-the-ball hit on French wing David Bory and three Tests later against Australia he was sin-binned for a tackling offence. More recently he has improved his tackling technique and is now less prone to conceding penalties.
It was announced on 9 July 2007 that he had signed a two year contract with Bath Rugby though he continued to be eligible to play for the Springboks.
Springbok career
Following the completion of the 2001 Super 12 season, James was included in the Springboks squad and made his debut for South Africa at flyhalf in a 32–23 loss to France at Ellis Park. In the following Test, also against France, he contributed five penalty goals in the 20–15 victory in Durban, but was later cited and suspended, missing South Africa’s next match, against Italy. He returned for the 2001 Tri Nations Series and started at flyhalf in every game though South Africa only managed to win the one match, 20–15 against Australia in Durban.
James was a part of Springboks in November 2002 and was a reserve in a Test against France at Stade Velodrome in Marseilles and was subsequently moved to starting flyhalf for a Test against Scotland. He was switched to inside centre for the following match against England. South Africa lost all of those end-of-season Tests including the 52–0 drubbing by England.
James was included in the Springboks 2006 Tri Nations Series squad, playing in the 35–17 loss to the All Blacks in Wellington as well as in the following match against Australia in Sydney which the Springboks lost 20–18, thanks to a late Wallaby try. James made an impact in the first half, though one of his cross-field kicks was intercepted and led to a Mark Gerrard try. He was also selected for the end-of-year tour to Ireland and England.
After being omitted from the squad for the game against Ireland, James started in the first game against England. In the first half he scored a try with the help of Jean de Villiers and at the start of the second half he set up a try for Springbok wing Akona Ndugane, the first of his career. Although he scored 14 points (a try, two penalties, and a conversion), South Africa narrowly lost the game 23–21 and James had to be substituted after suffering another knee injury, which meant he missed South Africa’s 14–25 win in the second Test against England.
James was named in the Springboks squad for the 2007 Rugby World Cup. He played in three pool matches, including those against Samoa and England and in all three games in the knock-out stages. In the final, against England his composure and ability to nullify the impact of his opposite number, Jonny Wilkinson, helped South Africa to a 15–6 win.
Bath career
Following the 2007 World Cup tournament, James joined Bath Rugby. He made his debut in Bath’s 28–6 victory over Auch in the European Challenge Cup on 10 November and was an immediate success, earning the man of the match award after scoring a superb individual try and setting up another with a deft cross-field chip-kick.
On 1 February 2011 it was announced that James would be joining the Lions back in South Africa at the end of May.
His career portfolio is as follows:
- 2013 – After his contract expired at the end of the 2012 season, he rejoined the Sharks
- 2012 – MTN Golden Lions ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division – MTN Lions Vodacom Super Rugby
- 2011 – South Africa IRB Rugby World Cup – MTN Golden Lions ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division – MTN Lions Vodacom Super Rugby – South Africa Castle Tri-Nations
- 2010 – South Africa Vodacom Tri-Nations – South Africa Vodacom Incoming Tours
- 2008 – South Africa Vodacom Tri-Nations – South Africa Vodacom Incoming Tours
- 2007 – South Africa IRB Rugby World Cup – South Africa Vodacom Tri-Nations – South Africa Vodacom Incoming Tours – Wildebeest Vodacom Cup – The Sharks Vodacom Super 14 – South Africa World Cup warm-up matches
- 2006 – The Sharks ABSA Currie Cup Premier Division – Wildebeest Vodacom Cup – The Sharks Vodacom Super 14 – South Africa Vodacom Tri-Nations – South Africa Vodacom Outgoing Tours
- 2005 – The Sharks ABSA Currie Cup Qualifying Round – Sharks Vodacom Super 12
- 2004 – Sharks Vodacom Super 12 – 2004
- 2003 – Natal Sharks ABSA Currie Cup – Premier Div. – SA ‘A’ Vodacom Incoming Tours – Sharks Vodacom Super 12 – 2003
- 2002 – South Africa Springboks Outgoing Tour – Natal Sharks Bankfin Currie Cup – South Africa ‘A’ Incoming Tours – South Africa Incoming Tours
- 2001 – South Africa Vodacom Tri-Nations – Natal Sharks Bankfin Currie Cup – South Africa Vodacom Incoming Tours – South Africa Vodacom Incoming Tours – Sharks Vodacom Super 12
- 2000 – Natal Sharks Bankfin Currie Cup – South Africa U/21 South Hem. U21 – South Africa U/23 African Rugby Champs – Natal Wildebeest Vodacom Cup
- 1999 – South Africa U/21 South Hem. U21 – Natal Sharks U/21 Bankfin Under 21 – Natal Sharks Bankfin Currie Cup – Natal Wildebeeste Vodacom Cup
- 1998 – Natal Sharks U/21 Bankfin Under 21
- 1996 – South Africa U/23 Other National Games
TEST RECORD
| OPPOSITION |
P |
W |
D |
L |
T |
C |
PE |
DG |
PTS |
| Argentina |
2 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
9 |
0 |
0 |
18 |
| Australia |
10 |
4 |
1 |
5 |
0 |
5 |
7 |
0 |
31 |
| England |
6 |
4 |
0 |
2 |
1 |
2 |
2 |
0 |
15 |
| Fiji |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
| France |
3 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
0 |
15 |
| Italy |
2 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| Namibia |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| New Zealand |
10 |
2 |
0 |
8 |
1 |
0 |
4 |
1 |
20 |
| Samoa |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| Scotland |
2 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
6 |
| USA |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
4 |
| Wales |
3 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
8 |
8 |
0 |
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Fred Zeilinga:
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He is likely to be third in line at flyhalf for the Sharks. This young pivot came through the junior ranks with a very good reputation but taking injuries into account and the fact that opportunities has not knocked on his door yet, he is yet to prove that reputation. He is a natural flyhalf that strangely enough can play scrumhalf too and he has a solid kicking game to boot.
Fred was schooled at Glenwood High School and has had a very illustrious junior career and it was only due to a broken ankle that he did not play for SA Schools. He broke his ankle in a match between Glenwood and Maritzburg College two weeks before the Craven Week.
His career to date is as follows:
- 2012 – Sharks ABSA Under 21 Competition – Sharks XV Vodacom Cup
- 2011 – Sharks ABSA Under 19 Competition – Sharks ABSA Under 21 Competition – Sharks XV Vodacom Cup
- 2010 – Sharks ABSA Under 19 Competition – KZN U18 Craven Week
- 2009 – Sharks ABSA Under 19 Competition – KZN U18 Coca-Cola Craven Week
- 2008 – Kwazulu-Natal U16 Coca-Cola Grant Khomo Week – U16 Elite Squad Elite Squads
- 2005 – Kwa-Zulu Natal U13 Coca Cola Craven Week
Starters:
Patrick Lambie will start without a doubt, with Butch James the backup. Will Fred Zelinga play Super Rugby in 2013? I do not believe so as John Plumtree will fall back onto players like Meyer Bosman or Francois Steyn to cover pivot in the case of too many injuries.
29 @ Sharks_forever:
That is a problem with Chadwick, his mind goes walk about far too often. He makes some really daft mistakes bro and if frustrates me sometimes. Just do wish we had another in the class of Beast. Well saying all this about Chadwick he may prove us wrong this year who knows, but I would be pleased to be proved wrong. He has to up his game.
Okay going to eat dinner now.
Catch up later.
Ha ha you Sharkies are a hoot. Cry me a river, according to you two,(Pooms and Sharkie) the Sharks have just about the best players in SA, in almost every position
Just a pity it isn’t translating into any trophies
And before you castigate me, for the Cheetahs lack of silverware, I don’t rate every Cheetah as the best in SA lol!
To bring you two “star struck” folks back to terra firma!
Fransie is amongst the top centers, I agree. Jordaan had a brilliant season, but is not the best in SA yet. Bosman geez, not too long ago, he was targeted by most Sharks supporters to be tarred and feathered. Whitehead has been good, but the best in SA? Nee wragtig kêrels!!
Mjekevu?? Heimar Williams??
Sadie, Ebersohn, Francois Venter, Hollenbach, and JdJ would all put their hands up!
And to further rip your now arguments to shreds.
Props, you have Beast and Jannie, then you are up a creek without a paddle!!
Locks you are fine with PSDT, Franco, Bresler and the Marais Bro’s, but none are considered the best in SA!!
Flanks, you have Alberts and Coetzee, Daniels, and Kanko, sorted, but no out and out fetcher.
Scrumhalf, Reinhach was hot, Mc Leod up and down.
Flyhalf, pretty well covered, except if both Butchie and Lambiekins go down. We have Goosen, Brummer, Watts, Smit, and Graaff!!
@ Cheetah4eva:
NO NO NO get it right, see we talk about oyr players, you don’t see us knocking other teams players? but I guess it is only ok if you guys praise sing your players right????
Ya swaar enough said
@ Cheetah4eva:
there you prove me roght again trying to tell me how shit the sharks players are?/ dude worry about your team, we will worry about ours 😉
see that’s the difference, you guys have to knock players from other teams to make you feel good about your own players
Now I could argue most of those you rate I don’t, I mean the ones you say are shit from the Sharks scrummed the crap outa ur Cheetah props, but yeah the Sharks props are crap, i’ll take it with a pinch of salt 🙂
Pooms please remember when you blog again to only praise other teams players ok?? 😆
Morning Sharky,
You sure took the bait on the last few posts hee hee. It’s about time you two got your come uppence
@ Cheetah4eva:
NOt really, but np BOetman
I was more awaiting some response now from Loosie, he is the real baiter lol
The fugger is prolly asleep.
And a good morning to you
Man I wish rugby will start??
This is like an empty life without it lmao
@ Cheetah4eva:
PLease explain though, as I stand by what I said? lol nowhere did I or Puma bad mouth the Cheetahs or any other team, I did say I thought something fishy about Griqua players being dropped, you did help me right there and was acceptable,
Nee boet, julle boertjies kla altyd as ek en Puma ons Sharks krediet gee 😉 The only real troll is Lospoppie, although he knows I enjoy his trolling, he been doin g it forever 😆
I will say this though?? My Shaarks beat the Cheetahs on a Reg basis, MUST BE SOME TRUTH IN THAT THE sHARKS PLAYERS OVERALL MUST BE BETTER? :LOL:
43 @ Sharks_forever:
Sharks are the best always ….
33 @ Cheetah4eva:
Sharkies at the best you should no that boet…………
Actually if you think about Frans Steyn I would say he not only the best in South Africa but probably the world he is right up there as one of the best, don’t you think……………. Now take that one and think about it……….. hehehehehe.
no that should read = KNOW that. Eish another mistake by me… 🙄
34 @ Cheetah4eva:
Okay jokes aside now. I was talking about Jordaan, Fransie and Whitehead not the rest. Those 3 are amongst the best in SA along with JdJ, Mapoe, Serfontein and Ebersohn. The others will have to see how they go in S15 this year.
Front row: Beast, Jannie and Bissie amongst the best in SA. Bissie still probably the best hooker in SA and probably the world. Strauss from Cheetahs a close 2nd to Bissie the two best in the country. Locks: I do rate Bresler he was so underrated last year. PSDT was outstanding for the jwc Boks though still have to see him at this level. Loosies are all mostly world class. Kanko, Alberts, Coetzee, Keegan and Deysel that is one impressive line up there. All Springboks too. Keegan and Coetzee with the most off-loads in our conference. Coetzee the best tackler in our conference. Kanko when he returned after injury for Sharks was probably the best 8th man in our conference. Centres Jordaan, Frans Steyn (Fransie about the best in the world let alone SA), Whitehead was superb in S15 and also one of the best centres, equally good at outside or inside centre. Jordaan was outstanding in the jwc though he played wing there. The others I have not rated really. Flyhalves: Lambie is one of the best flyhalves in the country alongside Goosen those two are the best we have. Butch the unsung hero of world cup 2007 is still right up there a damn fine flyhalf. Wings: JPP is about the best in the world at 14 let alone SA. JPP WAS the best number 14 in our conference. Mvovo is underrated in this country he is a top class wing. Ludik was by far the best fullback in our conference last year. Okay now who have I left out? …… There you have it, then I am a Sharkie and I look through black and white glasses here, so always rate my team the best……..hahahaha. I think I am right though…
@ Sharky,
Lol, agreed of late the Sharks have had the wood over the Cheetahs, but it wasn’t always the case. I remember a period of CC rugby where the Cheetahs had an unbeaten run over the Sharks to the tune of 11 matches, almost 6 seasons!!
In addition I also didn’t run down any Sharks players, I just said, they aren’t unanimously the best in positions. At the moment, Beast, Jannie, Bissy, Fransie and JPP can be regarded as such.
That said, it highlight my point that the Sharks underperform given their wealth of talent.
Cheetahs have players that have been considered the best too, but some have to return from injury, and reassert that claim. Lets see, Goosen, Brüssow, and Juan. Strauss, Rhule, Ebersohn, Sadie, Le Roux and Sareltjie are right up there.
48 @ Cheetah4eva:
I think Cheetahs have some great players as well.
Those you mention: Goosen, Brussow, Juan and Strauss amongst the best in SA too. Rhule is a exciting player and really looking forward to seeing him in S15 this year. Actually can’t wait think he is a Bok in waiting for sure. Sadie is okay never done much at the Bulls, Le Roux is top class but has to learn defence first to rate him, the other part of his game is top class. Sarel is superb but again his defence lets him down. I think I prefer Van Zyl and the future scrummies for Boks will come from Van Zyl or Cobus Reinach. Two outstanding scrumhalves.
@ Puma,
Agreed Sadie didn’t do much at the Bools, that said, the Bulls pattern didn’t suit his style of play at all. I envisage, that Sadie should start do his hype some justice in the Cheetahs team.
Like the Sharks, the Cheetahs should gain at least parity in the scrums, and with players like schoeman, Brüssow, van Zyl, Goosen, and likely Ebersohn on his inside, Sadie should have plenty of ball and space to dazzle. I also expect the lineout forwards to be more effective this year. No foundation for that feeling, just a gut feel.
I am more confident that Juan will be in the mix, and that will be a massive boost for the Cheetahs. All speculation at this point, but if Brüssow, and Juan combine, then either of vd walt or Uys can slot in at 8, feeding a very dangerous backline with good ball.
9. van Zyl/Sarel, 10. Goosen/Brummer, 11. Rhule/Jansen, 12.Ebersohn/Geel, 13. Ebersohn/Sadie, 14. Benjamin/Boshoff, 15. le Roux/Daniller/Scheepers.
@ Cheetah4eva:The thing with the Sharks and their supporters is: they poach the best players available, import where they need to, have this Manchester United arrogance about them, claim to have the best after party in the world in the car park and demand that every Shark player must become a Bok.
Yet in the last 10 years they have only won the CC once. AND they can’t fill their stadium no matter what the match.
Swak!
Fark, I’ve got to go and provide and drive the wedding car for someone today… why do I say yes to things like this?
Must be my kind nature… hehehehe
51 @ loosehead,
Exhachary, just as I told sharky earlier, they have had the wood over us, the past few seasons, but we had an unbeaten run over them for 6 years solid in the CC.
The Cheetahs have a powerful squad for 2013, I expect them to improve on their 10th finish. They have made sure that their problem at 10 last year should be prevented. They also have decent cover for Brüssow, and they look better at lock. I think they are going to be the surprise package of 2013.
51 @ Loosehead:
The Professional era must be really frustrating for some hey! Every team now buys top class players that they can afford.
You have a bit of a memory loss? Sharks won the CC in 2008 and 2010. We were in the final in 2008, 20010, 2011 and 2012 won two of them. Good enough for me as a Shark supporter. Also we have been in 3 Super Rugby finals in the last 12 years. Not bad, sure we have not won any, should have won the 2007 cup if it was not for Walsh. Another thing the way we made it to the final last year was sensational stuff. Not many teams could have done what Sharks done. Sure we lost the final that was a game just too far, but come on we were superb to even make it that far. NO other team have gone and played a play off overseas win that then travel the same distance back in one week, win the semi and have to fly all the way back to the otherside of the world for a final. Sharks beating the Reds and Stormers two weeks in a row was phenomenal stuff, especially that Reds never travelled and Stormers never travelled and had a week off. I am proud of my team the way they made it to the final last year, also especially the top class rugby they played getting there. Remember we had to beat the Bulls first with 4 tries and we did it in style, needed to beat the Cheetahs the following week, we done it with 4 tries as well. Then to go on from there and travel and beat the Reds and Stormers was out of the top draw.
Come on loosie, the Sharks after party is well known for the best after party of them all, you know it though…hahaha. None dispute that…. 😛 It is and will be no matter how many turn up for the game or not, that party rocks after.
50 @ Cheetah4eva:
For sure think Sadie was limited at the Bulls. The Cheetahs game plan will suit Sadies natural game. We will see the best of him playing for Cheetahs. Your team will beat many next year.
They used to be the Sharks bogey team, now for some reason we beat the Cheetahs and LIONS have become our bogey team. Just happens to some teams where one has the wood over the other. Like Sharks have it over the Blues and Boks over England. We have beaten the Blues since 2006 now. Home and away.
@ Puma:
Don’t get pulled into it Bro, you know the logs on their Shoulders must be huge,
Funny how they claim all these players when Grey is packed with Kids from other provinces that get scouted at primary school level
But hey only the Sharks buy Bwahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa,
See this is why I mostly ignore the threads of other teams, although I only had good things to say about there players, but you know the Glue gum tree’s on their shoulders must be weighing them down bad 😆
56 @ Sharks_forever:
I know just had to correct old loosie there……hahaha. 🙂
Ag, I don’t care really who says what, right now in the professional era every team is buying left right and centre. If we can afford the best so be it that is the way it will be forever more from here. I support my team and players no matter where we get the players from. Once they at the Sharks they are Sharks for me……….:) Also can we help it that these players like the warm Indian Ocean to surf in? We lure most of the Free Stater to Sharks don’t we? Has to be the balmy weather we have here? Or the superb supporters sharks have…………….
I must say that I am battling to troll you okes all the time.
The rugby has to start before I become unpopular on this site.
56 @ Sharky,
lighten up, we just stretching your legs a tad, all in good fun. There is more fun to be had, why limit yourself to Sharks threads only? There is a big wide world outside of Sharksworld
Eish! methinks some Goblin has been tinkering with this article!
Lambie 1.99m tall?? OMW, be afraid, be very afraid!
Butch 102 kg’s Gee move him to flank!
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