Two new faces in the form of Siya Kolisi and Pat Cilliers make up a squad including 5 uncapped players – the others being JJ Engelbrecht, Elton Jantjies and Jano Vermaak. The full squad is:
Willem Alberts, The Sharks, 11 caps
Andries Bekker, DHL Western Province, 24 caps
Pat Cilliers, MTN Golden Lions, uncapped
Marcell Coetzee, The Sharks, 3 caps
Keegan Daniel, The Sharks, 3 caps
Jean de Villiers, DHL Western Province, 75 caps (captain)
Bismarck du Plessis, The Sharks, 45 caps
Jannie du Plessis, The Sharks, 33 caps
JJ Engelbrecht, Vodacom Blue Bulls, uncapped
Eben Etzebeth, DHL Western Province, 3 caps
Dean Greyling, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 2 caps
Bryan Habana, DHL Western Province, 77 caps
Francois Hougaard, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 18 caps
Elton Jantjies, MTN Golden Lions, uncapped
Zane Kirchner, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 15 caps
Siya Kolisi, DHL Western Province, uncapped
Juandré Kruger, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 3 caps
Patrick Lambie, The Sharks, 13 caps
Tendai Mtawarira, The Sharks, 35 caps
Lwazi Mvovo, The Sharks, 4 caps
Ruan Pienaar, Ulster, Northern Ireland, 54 caps
JP Pietersen, The Sharks 45 caps
Jacques Potgieter, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 1 cap
Chiliboy Ralepelle, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 21 caps
Pierre Spies, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 50 caps
Frans Steyn, The Sharks, 49 caps
Morné Steyn, Vodacom Blue Bulls,, 37 caps
Adriaan Strauss, Toyota FS Cheetahs, 12 caps
Flip van der Merwe, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 14 caps
Jano Vermaak, Vodacom Blue Bulls, uncapped.
Total caps: 647
Injured Boks not considered for selection were: Bjorn Basson, Juan Smith, Schalk Burger, Heinrich Brüssow, Bandise Maku, Coenie Oosthuizen, Jaco Taute, Johan Goosen and Duane Vermeulen
I say again, HM must be in some sort of bull induced coma with some of his selections, in particular Steyn and Spoes and Kirchner. I wonder if the big guns at Blue Bulls rugby let him go on the understanding that….., no, I can’t be that low! But, really.
Kanko may have signed with a Japanese side, but so had FdP, so no argument there. He hasn’t left yet, either. Some truly bizarre selections, I think
Sorry Bulls maar die name bevraagteken ekke.
Dean Greyling
Chiliboy Ralepelle
Pierre Spies
Jano Vermaak
Bulls scrum have been poor. Ralepele went of with a injury. Fourie can cover as hooker and 8th man. Where is Bresler who had a wonderful Super Rugby so far? Willie Le Roux which is one of the most underrated guys in this country should have been there together with Ludik who is 10 times the player Sideshow Bob is.Vermaak? He played less games than Sarel who he could have picked.
OK, so who’s in that should not be in, considering injuries, unavailability, leaving for overseas?
Peter Popgun Grant…. hehehe… I’m afraid he does not have what it takes, as was seen in the Semi-Final at Newlands against the Sharks. No distance on line kicks, can’t take far penalties to goal… and simply does not have BMT.
Juan de Jongh & Paul Jordaan… now there might be 2 unlucky ones…
I personally think Pierre Spies is lucky to be there still, but with Duane Vermeulen still having to get game time and Kanko going overseas… it’s OK.
Why Andries Langbek is still rated… is beyond me.
11 Blue Bulls
10 Sharks
5 WP
2 Lions
1 Cheetah
1 Ulster (Ex Shark)
@ grootblousmile:
You see here comes the provincial crap again which is why our rugby is taking a dump. Did I mention Grant?
Bresler
WP Nel
Brussouw
Fourie
Pretoruis
Julle bulle maak of julle nie van Spies hou nie maar julle verafgod die moegoe daar in Pretoria.
Brok Harris can play first five 8 as well as he shown for the Stormers fecking in the backline when he should have been winning the balls in the rucks
I think HM’s honeymoon may be well and truly over, and can see some very harsh criticism of him coming up over the next couple of weeks
@ Spooony:I’m happy to mention Grant – If Stain deserves to be there, so does Peter Grant. He can’t do any worse than Stains kicking record of late, and he is a far better defensive unit!
Steve Hofmeyer will replace Leon Schuster
Brok Harris been playing 10 more than Grant lol
@ Spooony:As has Langbek – maybe thats why he got another call up!
Hoop net Lambie bly fit dan kan Steyn die bank warm hou
HM is showing what many of us thought. A narrow conservative mindset that is stuck in the past and more afraid of changing and trying something new than failing. In his mentality it is better to fail with the same old, but hope things will change, than to actually try something different and see if it works or fails.
Then as soon as one criticizes him out come the provincialism and BB supporters rush to his defense as if one were calling their mother a good time girl. Some would say you are only criticizing him because he is from the Blue Bulls, instead of addressing the criticism. Of course everyone has their biases, we’re human after all, but lets respect that on this site the vast majority are passionate Bok supporters and want to see the Boks win. I for one don’t care which player HM picks; his granny if he wants, as long as the player performs and his team wins. HM showed during the third England test that he was addicted to Stain and now after all his nice talk and all the “give him a chance”, he has made F-all change.
It’s simple, if the player is not performing consistently, drop/rest him and give another player a chance.
Ai, lyk my HM is ‘n undercover WP/Stormers ondersteuner en het nou lekke anti-Blou Bulle geword.
Eers kies hy voor die Junie toetse net so paar Stormers sodat hul goed uitgerus kan wees om die supertitel te wen, en nou kies hy weer net ‘n paar Stormers sodat hul die CB kan wen, eish.
Maar ja, dit is seker ook nie ons pro-Stormers bok coach se skuld as hy hul so baie help en hulle maak ‘n balls-up van hul super15 aspirasies nie (eerste op die log, tuisveld voordeel, een week rus, moeë Sharks, Walsh as ref, wat nog?).
Komaan WP, hoeveel hulp soek jul nog ?
Wie weet, dalk het jul nou ‘n goeie kans vir die CB en dan kan julle na die CB titel in 2012 sing: “wat ‘n vriend het ons in Heyneke …?”
Sharks, jammer, maar dit was een wedstryd te veel. Julle was vir seker ons beste span hierdie jaar, loshande, in spelpatroon en guts aan die einde. Tough luck, maar ons weet nou: eindig 1 of 2 én wen jou semis (Stormers!), dan gaan jy dit maak, anders is dit tickets.
Bulle, julle het ge-choke met die twee verlore op Loftus, teen die Blues en die Stormers-Chokers, veral die laaste een was die einde van julle kanse.
Geluk aan die Chiefs, julle het gewys ‘n span kan weer opstaan na julle rekordloesing in die 2009 finaal. Interessant, ook die Reds wat ‘n rekordloesing teen hul gekry het in 2007, het laasjaar die supertitel gewen.
So my Stormers tjomme, daar is hoop vir julle, want die 75-14 loesing wat jul in 2005 gekry het (ai, ek kry nou nog lekker van daardie een) … ook op Loftus, beteken jul beurt sal kom om die titel te wen, ons weet net nie watter eeu nie. 😉
Oor die bokspan, volgende spelers die gelukkigste om daar te wees as hul in die beginspan gaan wees:
– Spies (nie-spelende kaptein .. terwyl hy op die veld is?)
– Bekker (het ons nie genoeg senters nie?)
– Steyn, maar wie anders (Grant kan nie verder as die kwartlyn uitskop nie, as hy alles insit ..)
Sterkte aan HM en die Bokke.
dIE OU OU OU Bulls/NTVL ondersteuners het groot geraak net soos ek met die provinsiale baklyery en die defences gaan op as iemand jou unie aanval oor iets daaroor se. Moelik om daai iut die sisteem te kry so kom ons gee hulle so bietjie draad tot die manne speel. Hulle is klaar gekies niks gaan word om te kak en pis daaroor
@ bdb:
75 -14 game was fixed so that you mugs can play in a semi. Say thank you and stop watching the history channel. I can go back a 100 years and piss on your Currie Cup totals
15: heehehe, ja was seker Suzie wat dit gereël het, soos met die 1995 WB finaal ?
Kan verstaan dat jy nie terug wil gaan in die superrugby history nie, history is wel belangrik as jy iets gewen het en besef hoe moeilik dit eintlik is om dit reg te kry.
@ bdb:
Nee dieselfde manne wat aandele in die Bulle het het aandele in die Stormers.
So gepraat van Suzie. Niemand het eers besef dat NZ die hoogste voedsel vergifting syfer in die werel het nie. Toevallig in 95 het hulle probleme gehad met melk was sleg was en die mense siek gemaak het. Dis hoekom hulle so gou dit kon opmaak het.
17: Spoony, ek dink jy dink aan die 2006 wedstryd, toe die Bulle ‘n sekere punteverskil moes kry in die laaste wedstryd teen die Stormers op Nuweland om die semi’s te maak met ‘n beter punteverskil as die Sharks. Die Sharks se tasse was al gepak oppad na NZ toe ? en toe hoor hul nee, pak maar weer uit kerels, die Bulle gaan oorsee verloor.
Kan nie mooi onthou nie, maar Bulle moes met iets soos 24 punte wen op Nuweland, en toe wen hul presies met daardie puntetelling, iets soos 43-19. Maar ek is nie presies seker oor die tellings daardie dag nie, maar ja, dit ruik soos ‘n match fixing … maar tenminste ‘n lekker een, ek het hom geniet, dankie. 😉
Die 75-14 wen was in 2005 iewers in die middel van die seisoen, dink nie ons moes hom toe al so ver wen vir ‘n semi nie. Selfs Wessel Roux het gescore daardie dag, dan moet jy weet.
Why on earth would HM choose Bekker, Stain and Spies? The man is obviously deranged and probably in the middle of a mid life crisis, as I don’t see Mnr Aplon there either – Oh well, he’s made our bed now and we must lie in it. Good luck to the Bokke, as that is what we are here for after all. I think, however that they will certainly need all the luck they can get – Just pray that HM banishes that farking worm thingy from his coaching repetoir!!! God’s speed boys
In my humble, supporters opinion:
Willem Alberts, right choice
Andries Bekker, wrong choice
Pat Cilliers, not convinced yet
Marcell Coetzee, right choice
Keegan Daniel, right choice
Jean de Villiers, I believe, choose the best player first. Is he the best 13? But there is just no-one else in the starting line up that puts their hands up
Bismarck du Plessis, right choice
Jannie du Plessis, right choice
JJ Engelbrecht, right choice
Eben Etzebeth, right choice
Dean Greyling, not convinced
Bryan Habana, coming back to form
Francois Hougaard, right choice
Elton Jantjies, MTN right choice
Zane Kirchner, dreadful choice
Siya Kolisi, right choice
Juandré Kruger, right choice
Patrick Lambie, right choice
Tendai Mtawarira, right choice
Lwazi Mvovo, right choice
Ruan Pienaar, right choice
JP Pietersen, right choice
Jacques Potgieter, right choice
Chiliboy Ralepelle, not convinced
Pierre Spies, WTF
Frans Steyn, right choice
Morné Steyn, WTF
Adriaan Strauss, right choice
Flip van der Merwe, right choice
Jano Vermaak, perhaps, but Sarel deserves a chance imho
Skole rugby all over again….die een wie se pa die meeste skape skenk, se kind maak die span lyk dit my. So gaan dit met die provinsiale rugby powerhouses deesdae. Stem saam met die oorgrote keuring, maar n paar van die ou manne moet bietjie plek maak vir die belowende jong spelers. Gaan nie name noem nie, want sommige mense wil in hulle broeke pis as jy hulle provinsie se spelers noem, maar stem tot n seker mate saam met JFK@20. Hoop ek is verkeerd, maar sien opdraande stryd teen die Kiwiw’s die jaar (pasop vir die Argies). SA sal hulle spelpatroon moet verander ….NZ,Wales,Fr en Eng gaan ons een van die dae opfok teen die pas. Die huidige reels pas nie ons gameplay nie.
20 @ Just For Kicks:
So, to analize your choices….
Heyneke picked 20 out of 30 precisely right choices, PLUS 6 almost there’s (not concinced) – of which most supporters would probably have picked 4 of the 6… so that makes it 24 correct by Heyneke
Outright no’s goes to:
1. Langbek (which most supporters would have chosen)
2. Zane Kirchner (he’s there only as a backup Fullback, Taute is injured, Joe Pietersen has had a few horrendous weeks here at the end… who else is there… Louis Ludik – toss up between Ludik and Kirchner, really – so what’s the fuss about)
3. Pierre Spies (ja, he should not be there, but the current choices are a bit thin at No 8)
4. Mornê Steyn (who else: Popgun Farking Peter Grant – who battles to kick the ball further than a 22m line and who has no BMT?, Butch No-brains James – WTFFFFF? Elton Jantjies – he IS in the group?, Goosen – injured?, Sies Ebersohn – hehehe?, Meyer Fokken Bosman – hahaha?, Lambie – oh he’s IN the group already too)
So, you differ from Heyneke Meyer’s choices by about 3 to 6 from 30 (let’s make it a round 5 for good measure), so you agree with about 84% of his choices…. whoop dee doo!
Fok, julle kan kak en kerm en julle bekke uitspoel vir vet mooi nokkol!
… and it’s not about Provincialism… it’s about who should be there IN PLACE of the WHAT THE FARK choices…
Turn it the other way, and give me 6 direct replacements (uninjured and available and not going overseas) for the 6 players you’re not happy with… and 80 % the nation would be going WHAT THE FLOKKEN FARK to your choices….
You guys need to learn to freegin think before shooting your mouth’s off at any given whim!
22: sa ! sa ! vat hulle ! sê hulle, sê hulle ! 😉
5 @ Spooony:
You overrate your own opinion… I did not respond to you… otherwise I might have pulled the shithouse chain or freegin reffered by number and name to your comment, like I’m doing with this comment.
WP Nel – going overseas
Brussow – on the injured list
Sareltjie Pretorius – could not even make the Watratahs run-on side
Deon Fourie – Good in the loose and with ball in hand, but absolutely shocking throwing into the lineout, and can’t scrum to save his own life.. and he’s had what 2 games as an emergency measure at No 8….
Bresler – In place of whom? Flip?, Langbek?, Juandre Kruger? Etsebeth?
My dear man, WTF!
@ bdb:
Piesang Piel se pa kon ook daai dag gescore het maar op die einde van die dag het die Stormers julle 10 keer pak gegee teen julle 7.
ek herhaal TEIN KEER HET JULLE VERLOOR EN NET 7 keer gewen 10! Ja ek se weer 10 keer. Of jy honderd nul of 5 nul wen n wen is n wen. Weet julle Bulle nog hoe voel dit om 5 of 6 games in n ry te wen? Ken julle nog daai gevoel? Of ken julle nog daai gevoel om na n semi final toe tegaan en jou span speel?
En 2005 het die Bulls in die semi’s teen die Tah’s verloor
Hulle het derde geeindig op die log waar hulle en die Canes albei op 34 geeindig het. Waarom het die Bulls die makliker Tahs gekry? Omdat hulle n 39 punt beter punte verskil as die Canes gehad het. Se dankie vir die Stormers maar toe vok julle anyway teen die Tahs op julle moegoes haha
@oomklapbloubul
Bulle se stamp kar rugby is tos en het versper in 2009. Bulle was kak in die SR pak gekry by die Saders met die voorspelers maar hy gaan kies die vokken reserwe scrumhalf van hulle, n stut wat op sy moer gekry het heel seison en Sideshow Bob wat nie eens n bal kan vang teen die Saders nie. Twee keer teen die Stormers op hulle moer gekry maar hulle sluit nog steeds n kak huis van hulle in. Spelers wat nie eers gepseel het nie van die Bulls raak sommer n Springbok deur net op die reserwe bank te sit. Daai is mos n klap in die gevreet van die wat gespeel het.
So ja Meyer se hart is nog in Pretoria en sy visie in 2009!
Maar daai Currie beker kanse wat jy gemention het lyk kwaai van die kant af. Maar vok die ek wil he die Bokke moet nie op hul moer kry nie
@ grootblousmile:If I am wrong, I will eat my words, but just those 3 positions are just about the 3 most important positions on the field. With Lambie at F/H, Aplon at F/B and Kankowski at 8, the team is already much better. But, hey, as you say, what do I know. Time will tell.
And I really don’t get this “going overseas’ thing, It’s okay for some (a la Pienaar and FdP) but not for Kankowski of WP. Smacks of double standards to me, unless someone can explain it.
27 @ Just For Kicks:
Lambie, like he played today… hahaha
Aplon… Little Knockout Aplon… hehehe…. you know what I would have picked him in place of Krusty too… maybe!
Kanko… yip, he’s been good since returning AFTER injury.
WP Nel, seriously? You would consider him, seriously? Ai jai jai!
@ grootblousmile:No I wouldn’t choose him, necessarily, trying to get the point across that everyone is using the overseas contracts as an excuse.
Lambie played badly today, agreed. But even at his worst, doesn’t have a scratch on Stains run.
29 @ Just For Kicks:
What you on about then… Lambie is IN the Bokke squad, not out of it…
… and you would not have played WP Nel… so why bring up his name?
I said that Kanko’s been good, also said that I do not want Spies there anymore either… so what’s your freegin point?
Is it just that you want Morné Steyn out at ALL costs? Whoop dee doo…. your opinion…
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