Ireland’s upset over the Wallabies really has put the cat among the pigeons at this World Cup..in more ways than one.
You don’t have to draw too long a bow from the best match of the tournament so far to realise the result, potentially, has serious implications for the All Blacks.
I’m really interested now – and concerned in the same breath – to see how the French react to this result.
Article by Justin Marshall
Believe me, they’ll be thinking long and hard about it.
When you think about their path to the final, a loss to the All Blacks at Eden Park on Saturday is now not such a bad thing.
It’s probable that if France drop that game they’ll fall into the more favourable side of the draw against teams they’re used to playing, personnel they know, and tactics they’re more familiar with.
If you’re coach Marc Lievremont you have to look at the bigger picture. I’ll be really interested to see the team they pick and the mentality they go in with. Especially the latter. The French can be easily distracted.
This would be the worst outcome from an All Blacks perspective. They’ve been quite flamboyant with their selections to date, and would have been banking on this pool decider to get the team in motion for the quarterfinals. All of a sudden, this could become a game without the intensity they’ve been anticipating.
So much now depends on the French approach. Lose and they go into the side of the knockout draw with England, and maybe Wales or Ireland. Win and they probably end up with Argentina, the Springboks and Wallabies.
You don’t have to have the brainpower of Graham Henry to work out which would be more favourable for France.
Now, I don’t want to question anyone’s integrity here, but this is a tournament, and you would be stupid not to give yourself the best chance to get to the final. It’s just common sense.
How would it be any different than what Japan did by sending out their second-string side to face the All Blacks in Hamilton? Coaches have a main goal in mind.
However, I don’t see the All Blacks taking a similar attitude. We’ve got a completely different mentality than the French. Our rugby community wouldn’t accept us looking that far ahead, let alone giving less than best effort.
But if I’m an All Blacks coach examining the way things have worked out I would be saying: ‘bugger’.
On the other side of the draw you would have a more viable chance of getting to the final, because the strength is not as good, and tactically, it’s more valuable to be up against teams you don’t play regularly.
The difficulty now facing the All Blacks is what starting XV do they choose.
Do they pick specialists – guys who play regularly in certain positions, such as Mils Muliaina or Cory Jane – or do they go down another line of thinking and find a way to get all the best players on the field.
On form they have to find somewhere for Sonny Bill Williams and Israel Dagg, which wouldn’t necessarily mean Mils missing. That’s where they’ll be weighing the question of specialists versus finding room for form men.
I’m hearing people say they can’t look at Williams on the wing because he’ll get found out defensively. I don’t buy that. There’s not a lot of evidence at this World Cup of wings running around opposition numbers.
I wouldn’t have a problem having Sonny there when you’ve got a genius like Conrad Smith inside. I call him “The Cleaner” and having the world’s best defender in his position would help Sonny get through any issues he might have.
Fullback’s going to be an interesting call. Dagg is as confident on the wing as he is at No 15, and he’s got all the skills. If you want to stay with Mils for solidity and experience, you just put Dagg on the wing.
Halfback is the other big decision. Andy Ellis went extremely well against Japan and he’s the best distributor in the country.
But I’d be comfortable with any combination of the three of them. They’ve all got elements of their games different from each other, and nobody really stands out in terms of form. It’s a similar story at lock between Sam Whitelock and Ali Williams.
Just a final word on that famous Irish upset on Saturday night in Auckland.
What a great showcase it was for the World Cup, because of the atmosphere and intensity, but also because it shows upsets can happen.
I doubt the Wallabies were complacent, but they were certainly out-enthused and out-passioned.
I haven’t seen the Irish play like that for a long time. It shows what you can do when you come with
that attitude.
Justin Marshall played 81 games for the All Blacks at halfback, including the 1999 and 2003 World Cups.
Hooker Keven Mealamu, who captained the All Blacks to their 83-7 win over Japan in Hamilton last Friday night, said the Irish victory ”changes a lot of outcomes that people had perceived”.
”That’s what this competition is about,” he said. ”Everyone’s in it to win. If South Africa and the Wallabies meet in that quarter-final it’s going to be a huge game.”
Hore said the All Blacks were ”not too worried” about the play-off permutations yet but he supposed Ireland’s win could be good for the host nation in the long run .
”But we’ve got [to] make sure we’re still on the job,” he said.
One more loss at the World Cup and the Wallabies are on their way home. Their pathway through the finals is looking far more trecherous than first anticipated, as their most likely opponents at quarter and semi-final time are now South Africa and New Zealand.
That is a far more dangerous course than the originally assumed formula of Wales in the quarter-final and England or France in the semi-final.
The Wallabies have to rely on upsets – in particular Italy beating Ireland in Dunedin on October 2 – to re-establish themselves at the top of Pool C, but appear resigned to finishing runners-up and with it a far tougher pathway to next month’s final.
What irritates the team and their supporters is that it should never have come to this, with the Wallabies having only themselves to blame for their game completely disintegrating in Auckland.
Wallabies coach Robbie Deans blamed the players inability to think on their feet for their downfall.
”We were outplayed by a good Irish side which was committed and had a pretty simple plan,” Deans said last night.
Horwill believes the players have got the message and are adamant there will be no more stumbles during their final two pool matches- the first against USA at Wellington Stadium on Friday night, followed by Russia in Nelson on October 1.
”We know we can’t falter again,” Horwill said. ”It was always going to come to this point at some stage in the tournament. It’s just come earlier than we would have liked. We know we can’t have another off night. So we have to learn from Saturday night. And we have been in situations like this before.”
Can you guys imagine if USA can beat the convicts?
I know it is never ever going to happen but imagine that hahahahaha they will be spitting blood.
The only thing with the smaller teams is that they cannot keep up for 80 minutes, usually as from 20 to 15 minutes to go they start faltering which is a shame as they are giving some of the bigger sides much food for thought!!!!
I have a friend that immigrated to OZ about 12 years ago, he gave up his SA citizenship and does not want to know anything about SA!!! can you believe it, he belittles everything about SA, not just their sport but everything, that is why he gave up his birthright……I understand immigrating but to give up your citizenship?
Anyway after we won the match in the Tri-nations against NZ he pasted this on my facebook page:
Graham Henry’s MAstercard Bill
Accomodation in SA ………….$35 000
Meals in SA…………………& 8 500
Making all South Africans believe that they have a chance of winning the world cup……..PRICELESS.
The next week when the Ozzies beat the AB’s I turned it around to say the same but replaced SA with OZ and he was so pissed with me!!!! hahahahahaha he said I was scared and that I know Oz is a waaaay superior team than the boks!!!
I must say he is really testing our friendship
6 @ Tripples:
Flok HOM!
Waar’s die smiley met die Up-Yours vingertjie, wanneer jy hom nodig het??
Presies!!!! ek moet se my geduld is maar min met hom!!! sy ouers en skoon ouers en res van sy familie is nog hier maar hy het niks moois te se van sy geboorteland nie! Hy is regtig ‘n drol deesdae
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