Finally, the EPIC Final South Africans have been waiting for! North vs South, Good vs Evil, Bulls vs Stormers!
To make predictions for this final is not easy, here’s how I approach the subject….
I will look at some key factors, namely:
- Venue and Location
- Differing Styles of play
- Experience
- Altitude and weather
- Attitude
- Referee Influence
- History between the teams
- Coaches and Preparation
- Depth
- Gut Feel
1. Venue and Location:
Orlando Stadium, Soweto, the historic venue of this Final is as close as both Teams will come to playing the Final in a neutral venue. However the venue will have more positives to offer the Bulls than it will for the Stormers…
In the first instance the Bulls have now already played at Orlando once.
Secondly, the crowd will be stacked with more Bulls supporters than Stormers supporters.
Thirdly, the Vuvuzelas will be blasting, now known to the Bulls but still quite a foreign factor for the Stormers.
2. Differing Styles of play:
The Stormers offer a better defensive record for the season, whereas the Bulls have shown that they are quite able to dismantle the tightest of defensive structures.
I somehow feel that the Bulls are slightly better off in the front row and therefore also in the Tight Five combination, with the Bulls renowned for their prowess in the line-outs and the tight phases.
The backrow forwards battle will see a gigantic battle between a more classical Loosie Combo of the Bulls (pure fetcher, traditional blindsider and specialist No 8) compared to the Stormers trio where the flankers are the same type of hard running and hard tackling players, assisted by a very good traditional No 8. The battle for the ground ball and ruck and maul success will be of utmost imporance in this game… and the dicipline shown here as well as referee interpretations might swing the game either way.
All six backrow forwards have excelled this year but Schalk Burger and Francois Louw’s outstanding form this year might see them shade this department of the game.
Behind the scrum, Fourie du Preez should have the wood over Dewaldt Duvenage and his tactical prowess and game breaking ability favours the Bulls substantially, not that Dewaldt Duvenage is average by any means.
At flyhalf we sit with the No 1 and No 2 flyhalves in South Africa, possibly with Morné Steyn being the better tactical and goal kicker whereas Peter Grant might be the better attacking flyhalf. This will be a battle within a battle, something I’m looking forward to.
At inside centre there is not much to choose between Wynand Olivier and Juan de Jongh, except that Wynand has more experience on his side at inside centre. If there is a frailty in Stormers defence it might just be here, in the channel between flyhalf and inside centre, where Wynand will test the Stormers.
At outside centre, Jaque Fourie is the master and Jaco Pretorius will have his hands full to contain Jaque.
Defence out wide is where the Bulls are suspect and Gio Aplon and Bryan Habana are 2 of the world’s best in exposing this weakness, however in Francois Hougaard and Gerhard van den Heever the Bulls have excellent finishers who will also test Bryan and Gio to their limits.
In the last vestage, both Zane Kirchner and Joe Pietersen are solid under the high ball and join the attack well.
3. Experience:
The Bulls have 13 players in their run-on team who have already played in a Super 14 Final and the Bulls have 9 men who will compete for their 3rd Super 14 winners medal.
In addition, the Bulls abound with current Springboks, many of whom have tasted World Cup glory and Tri Nations glory.
The Stormers have one man, an ex Bull, who have tasted Super 14 glory, Bryan Habana… but the Stormers are a team with enough old hands to ensure that a lack of experience is not too much of an issue, so they should not be found like deer in the headlights on the day.
4. Altitude and weather:
Altitude favours the Bulls, although less than it did playing the Crusaders. More Stormers are used to playing at altitude at a regular basis in SA.
The weather should be good, a dry field, a good pitch… this make perfect rugby weather.
5. Attitude:
Mental preparedness and attitude will be THE deciding factor this weekend! Who wants this game more, who will play well beyond what is expected of them… only time will tell.
6. Referee Influence:
Let’s hope the Referee plays an unbiased game as facilitator, is clear in his application of the Laws and is not a cause for bitching and moaning afterwards.
The Bulls should be more worried about Craig Joubert than the Stormers would be, simply because the 2 games the Bulls lost in the Super 14 to other Franchises (not counting Bulls B’s loss to the Stormers) were both blown by Craig Joubert, the same man who will adjudicate this Final.
7. History between the Teams:
North vs South has always been the toughest contests in rugby in South Africa, sorry Sharks, Cheetahs and Lions… that is the case!
In recent years, the Bulls have had the clear advantage over the Stormers and the Stormers have endured some severe beatings since the 75-14 demolition on 14 May 2005.
There was the 43 / 10 whipping in 2006, the 49 / 12 spanking in 2007 against the Stormers and two lessor losses for the Stormers in 2008 and 2009.
The Stormers have however shed their Light Five tag, have far more balance in the team, so history is just that… history.
These teams will aim to write their own history and what happened in the past will be more important to supporters than for the players on the pitch.
8. Coaches and preparation:
The Bulls tried and tested coaching staff have a Super 14 win in their books already and is the same as in 2009. A few very short years ago Frans Ludeke was questioned, by myself as well…. but this year I’ve had the pleasure of talking to these gentlemen myself, seeing how well they’ve planned, how well they have man-managed their whole squad and how solid their structures are. All I can say here is, the coaching team who wants to wrestle the trophy away from Frans and hiss staff better have steel in their veins.
On the other side, Alistair Coetzee and his support staff have grown in stature and Alistair is reknowned for being the ultimate man-manager himself, ably supported by Mathew Proudfoot who has certainly managed to turn a struggling Stormers forward pack around. To my mind the only doubt left is in the inability to score many tries this season, favouring defence over attack. This will either prove to be a stroke of genius or a fatal flaw in the Final.
Both teams will be at full strength, no injuries to speak of, so the teams should almost be equally fresh. The Bulls additional rest week 2 weeks ago should stand them in good stead.
9. Depth:
A lot of pundits have indicated that the Bulls bench is stronger than the Stormers bench.
To me this is a bit of a falacy….
In Deon Fourie, Anton van Zyl, Pieter Louw and Whitehead the Stormers have able replacements, almost as good as those players in the starting berths, however one man on the Bulls bench, Flip van der Merwe, would have started the game in any of the other 13 Franchises and would canter into most International sides at the drop of a hat.
10. Gut Feel:
Ahhhh, the good old subjective measure of things… hehehehe
Here the Stormers would mostly be convinced that their team will take it, and similarly most Bulls supporters will be convinced that the Bulls will take it.
My Gut Feel tells me that the game will be like a Test match. It will be brutal…
My Gut Feel also tells me that the Stormers will start the game at a pace and will attempt to work the ball wide to expose the Bulls frailty out wide.
My Gut Feel also tells me that the Bulls will get stronger and stronger as the match progresses and that the Stormers initial verve will abate as the match progresses… just like we have seen all season.
So, should the Bulls contain the Stormers or level peg going into the last 40 minutes on the score board, my Gut Feel says that they should win.
If however the Stormers build a healthy lead before the break, my Gut Feel says that they will be that one Team against whom the Bulls would not be able to come back from far behind to close the game out.
OK, here we go… balls to the wall time, time to make a call as to how the final will end up.
But if I can predict, so can you… and anybody who wishes to rubish my prediction better place his prediction as well as his reasons on the line, right here, right now!
I very hesitantly predict, considering all of the above, that the Bulls should retain their title…. Bulls by 5.
Teams:
Bulls: 15. Zane Kirchner, 14. Gerhard van den Heever, 13. Jaco Pretorius, 12. Wynand Olivier, 11. Francois Hougaard, 10. Morné Steyn, 9. Fourie du Preez, 8. Pierre Spies, 7. Dewald Potgieter, 6. Deon Stegmann, 5. Victor Matfield (c), 4. Danie Rossouw, 3. Werner Kruger, 2. Gary Botha, 1. Gurthrö Steenkamp.
Replacements: 16. Bandise Maku, 17. Bees Roux, 18. Flip van der Merwe, 19. Derick Kuün, 20. Jacques-Louis Potgieter, 21. Jaco van der Westhuyzen, 22. Pedrie Wannenburg.
Stormers: 15. Joe Pietersen, 14. Gio Aplon, 13. Jaque Fourie, 12. Juan De Jongh, 11. Bryan Habana, 10. Peter Grant, 9. Dewaldt Duvenage, 8. Duane Vermeulen, 7. Francois Louw, 6. Schalk Burger (c), 5. Andries Bekker, 4. Adriaan Fondse, 3. Brock Harris, 2. Tiaan Liebenberg, 1. Wicus Blaauw.
Replacements: 16. Deon Fourie, 17. JC Kritzinger, 18. Anton Van Zyl, 19. Pieter Louw, 20. Ricky Januarie, 21. Willem De Waal, 22. Tim Whitehead.
Super 14 final Match Officials:
Referee: Craig Joubert
Assistant referees: Cobus Wessels, Christie du Preez
Ass. Refs 3 and 4: Pro Legoete, Lourens van der Merwe
Reserve referee: Mark Lawrence
Television match official: Shaun Veldsman
Timekeeper: Gabriel Pappas
@ Wezwp:
Stormers can’t play without the ball, and Guthro Steenkamp will see to that, making Brock Harris eating grass all over the park and putting the Stormers on the backfoot…..and then the WP back three will have to field like crazy under those high bombs from Steyn…one miss and Hougaard or Shadow will be under the posts.
If that happens, the Bulls will be up 14-0 in the first 10 minutes….watch!!!!
@ Wezwp:
De Jongh is the next Danie Gerber of SA rugby, agreed….but he needs someone like Wynand to make the play for him to score tries like that.
Die Stormers het goed verdedig die jaar, maar, hulle het nog nie teen die Bulle A-span verdedig nie. Gaan hul al die druk kan hanteer ?
@ bdb:
Antwoord is NEE.
Laaste 20 minute op die Hoeveld, met WP 10 punte agter, dan is die as af…
Tjorts almal, ek voel nou te alleen hier, vang julle later, laat ek vuur toe en die goete braai…..en nog n dop gooi…..solank julle MIELIES GOOI!!!!
Bulle met 15, sit geld op dit…..
The stormers know how to absorb pressure and feed off mistakes what do you mean we can’t play without The ball. thats the reason our defense is so popular
Btw de jong made that try himself. be honest That try took alot of work.
van den heever is still very much inexperienced. Iv got a feeling they will fold under pressure
37: baie goeie drie, maar dit sal bietjie moeiliker gaan teen ons land se nr.1 binnesenter.
38: en al hoe jy ervaring opdoen vir finale, is om in finale te speel, vra maar die 19 Stormers in jou span wat geen finaal ervaring het nie.
As Stormers nie met meer as 10 voor is teen halftyd nie, gaan die tweede helfte te lank wees.
38@ Wezwp:
You obviously do not rate Van den Heever… which is your right to do so, however misplaced it might be.
Speculating whether he will fold or not is just that… empty speculation. How much more experience has De Jongh or Duvenage got compared to Van den Heever… wait, they’re both less experienced… but you don’t hear me going off that the talented De Jongh will fold, or that Duvenage will fold, do you.
Put some solid reasoning behind a blind statement, Wezwp…
For instance, tell as where you have noticed that Van den Heever has shown a tendency to fold… date, game, circumstance…
In fact, I suggest the opposite is true….. the boy has only gotten better, apart from a youthfull brainfart with the spear a couple of weeks ago. He even beefed up a bit of a shoddy defence since the start of his Bulls carreer…. and his tries stand there for all to admire.
Hell, I’ll go further…. the youngster is solid under the high ball at the back as well and between him, Zane and Hougie we don’t fear a kicking game…. and give the youngster half a chance and your team will be standing behind the posts waiting for a conversion to come..
Nothing wrong with being a fervent Stormers supporter, just try for once being an objective fervent Stormers supporter… give some credit where it’s due as well…. until that happens, your opinion is just a fart in the wind….
40: en, vir die wat nie engels verstaan nie, hier is GBS se boodskap in Afrikaans:
wp = weer poep, dit is nou saterdag in die finaal !
😉
De jong is number 1 thats why He gets a start in the springbok jumper
42@ Wezwp:
Oh, I suppose in that case Odwa, Butch, Pienaar, Januarie, Joe v Niekerk, CJ v/d Linde, Chilliboy, Jannie du Plessis, Hargreaves, Ryan Kankowski, Meyer Bosman, Bjorn Basson, Francois Louw, Dewald Potgieter… are also No 1’s… applying your measure and reasoning….
Interesting…
Very sound reasoning Mr Wezwp… hahahaha
Ignorance is bliss, is’nt it….
Gbs you starting to annoy me. Hope you know you getting a pak on saturday for being so cocky. Btw dont ever email me. I can’t help it if pedrie used coke and Jooste is a man hoer. It is what It is. Hoekom raak jy kwaad vir die waarheid. world you seriously let your daughter date these guys. Anyway i wont mention it again. I forgive pedrie but i will never forgive that idiot called Jooste. I hear amor got the house.
44@ Wezwp:
I usually annoy people who are as thick as 2 short planks…
I WILL E-Mail you when you contravene the rules here, when slander and hate speech gets used… get used to it.
open your eyes bulle, you guys beat an extremely tired crusaders team. Hell, we beat them when they were fresh. Your second team who you all said would beat the Stormers were kakking in there broek at Newlands.
We marching to Soweto!!!! whoop whoop , go Stormers
@ Wezwp:
I dare you to show your face here next week. I got a feeling you going to hide.
ek moet sê gbs is lekker windgat vir n ou man.
Wanneer het Pietman oorgelopp na die blou gevaar toe?
The Saint wrote:
Toe Luke Watson op sy klere kas gekots het.
18 – 12 vir die Bulle.
23-12 vir die BULLE
29-24 vir die STORMERS!!!!!!!
En my rede vir dit: Geen stormers supporter kan vir die bulls pick nie, anders word jy gesien as n bulls fan in the closet, spy… blerrie bastard…
scrumsaam @ 54
amen!!
18-9 vir die Bulle
bloody Agent!!!!!
21 – 10 Stormers
Dear Dr Ruth
I am a crack dealer in BRAKPAN.
My parents live in Hillbrow and one of my sisters, who lives in Benoni, is married to a transvestite.
My father and mother have recently been arrested for growing and selling marijuana. They are financially dependent on my other two sisters, who are prostitutes in Brakpan. I have two brothers; one is currently serving a non-parole life sentence at Leeukop Central Prison for murder.
I have recently become engaged to marry a former prostitute who lives in Yeoville. She is now a part time “working girl”. All things considered, my problem is this. I love my fiancé and look forward to bringing her into the family. I certainly want to be totally open and honest with her.
Should I tell her about my cousin who is a Blue Bull supporter?
Signed,
Worried
…….
Dear Worried
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU TELL HER THIS DISTRESSING NEWS. SHE MAY KILL HERSELF RATHER THAN FACE HER FAMILY, FRIENDS & PIMP AGAIN.
It’s more than likely that your idiot cousin is responsible for the state of your family.
Signed,
Dr. Ruth
breaking news!!
its just been confirmed that the Blue Bulls have managed to sign with yet ANOTHER NEW sponsor!!
from today onwards they’ll be sponsored by TAMPAX
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TO HELP THEM THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT PERIOD!!
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bring it on suckers!!!
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