Time to pick this weekends best performing players.  No player from The Stormers appeared on the field because they had a deserved rest week, so a lot of changes to last weeks team must be made. Enjoy your chance to be a selector. team will be announced tomorrow evening after the Varsity Cup Final.
Players
| Lions | Cheetahs |
| JC Janse van Rensburg | Wian du Preez |
| Hannes Franklin | Adriaan Strauss |
| Ross Geldenhuys | WP Nel |
| -Subbed Off (34) | Nico Breedt |
| Nico Luus | Walti Vermeulen |
| -Subbed Off (71) | Hendro Scholtz |
| Franco van der Merwe | Barend Pieterse |
| Cobus Grobbelaar | Ashley Johnson |
| -Try (15) | -Try (32) |
| Derick Minnie | Sarel Pretorius |
| Todd Clever | -Subbed Off (60) |
| -Subbed Off (46) | Naas Olivier |
| Jano Vermaak | -Conversion (33) |
| -Subbed Off (61) | Bjorn Basson |
| Carlos Spencer | Meyer Bosman |
| -Missed Penalty (4) | -Penalty (2) |
| -Conversion (8) | Robert Ebersohn |
| -Missed Conversion (16) | -Subbed Off (72) |
| -Missed Conversion (23) | Danwel Demas |
| Tonderai Chavhanga | Riaan Viljoen |
| Doppies La Grange | Skipper Badenhorst |
| -Subbed Off (54) | Coenie Oosthuizen |
| Walter Venter Yellow Card | Neil du Plessis |
| -Yellow Card (61) | Kabamba Floors |
| Wigan Pekeur | Tewis de Bruyn |
| -Try (22) | -Subbed On (60) |
| -Try (77) | Corne Uys |
| Michael Killian | -Subbed On (72) |
| -Try (6) | Wilmaure Louw |
| Charles Emslie | |
| Heinke van der Merwe | |
| -Subbed On (34) | |
| Willem Stoltz | |
| -Subbed On (46) | |
| Robert Kruger | |
| -Subbed On (71) | |
| JP Joubert | |
| -Subbed On (61) | |
| -Try (70) | |
| Wandile Mjekevu | |
| Earl Rose | |
| -Subbed On (54) | |
| -Missed Conversion (70) | |
| -Conversion (78) | |
| Sharks | Bulls |
| John Smit | Gurthro Steenkamp |
| -Subbed Off (61) | Gary Botha |
| Bismarck du Plessis | -Subbed Off (60) |
| Jannie Du Plessis | Werner Kruger |
| Steven Sykes | -Subbed Off (70) |
| Alistair Hargreaves | Danie Rossouw |
| Jacques Botes | -Subbed Off (50) |
| Willem Alberts | Victor Matfield |
| -Subbed Off (61) | Deon Stegmann |
| Ryan Kankowski | -Subbed Off (58) |
| Ruan Pienaar | Dewald Potgieter |
| -Missed Penalty (2) | -Subbed Off (58) |
| -Conversion (6) | Pierre Spies |
| -Penalty (36) | -Try (9) |
| -Penalty (40) | Fourie du Preez |
| -Penalty (65) | Morne Steyn |
| -Conversion (67) | -Conversion (10) |
| -Penalty (73) | -Missed Penalty (28) |
| -Penalty (80) | -Penalty (34) |
| Andy Goode | -Missed Penalty (53) |
| -Subbed Off (60) | -Try (57) |
| JP Pietersen | -Conversion (58) |
| -Try (66) | -Penalty (63) |
| Riaan Swanepoel | -Missed Penalty (65) |
| -Subbed Off (61) | -Missed Conversion (68) |
| Adrian Jacobs | -Penalty (73) |
| -Subbed Off (9) | Francois Hougaard |
| Stefan Terblanche | -Subbed Off (77) |
| Patrick Lambie | Wynand Olivier |
| -Try (5) | Jaco Pretorius |
| Tendai Mtawarira | -Subbed Off (58) |
| -Subbed On (61) | Gerhard van den Heever |
| Wiehahn Herbst | Zane Kirchner |
| Wilhelm Steenkamp | -Try (67) |
| Jean Deysel | Bandise Maku |
| -Subbed On (61) | -Subbed On (60) |
| Rory Kockott | Bees Roux |
| -Subbed On (60) | -Subbed On (70) |
| Waylon Murray | Flip van der Merwe |
| -Subbed On (9) | -Subbed On (50) |
| Odwa Ndungane | Derick Kuun |
| -Subbed On (61) | -Subbed On (58) |
| Jacques-Louis Potgieter | |
| -Subbed On (58) | |
| Jaco van der Westhuyzen | |
| -Subbed On (77) | |
| Pedrie Wannenburg | |
| -Subbed On (58) |
Super, hier is my span vir die naweek
Zane
Basson
Ebersohn
Swanepoel
Hougaard
Pienaar
FDP
Spies
Minnie
Botes
Flip
Matfield
Kruger
Botha
Guthro
En myne is:
Zane Kirchner- best game in a Bulls jumper/Lambie and Riaan Viljoen did nothing wrong
Wigan Pekeur- always looking for work- tried hard in a losing team.
Robert Ebersohn- best of the lot in a position where we are thin at the moment
Wynand Olivier- playing pattern rugby for Bulls as ball carrier- best on show
Francois Hougard- looked for work and brings a new ‘scrummie’ dimension to 11 play
Morne Steyn- not best day with boot, but still best 10 by far
FdP- in a class of his own
Spies- good with ball in hand
Dewald Potgieter- another impressive all-round performance
Jaques Botes- his best game this year
Flip van der Merwe- only got 20 minutes but showed enough to pip the rest
Victor Matfield- hugely influential
Werner Kruger- maturing nicely, busy in tightloose
Bismark du Plessis- like a dynamo
Gurthro Steenkamp/John Smit- Gurthro for his complete game, but Smit was solid as well.
OK, die span…
15. Patrick Lambie
14. Basson (Net omdat hy altyd opgevolg het)
13. Niemand nie…
12. Riaan Swanepoel
11. Niemand nie…
10. Niemand nie…
9. Niemand nie…
8. Pierre Spies
7. Derrick Minnie
6. Kobus Grobbelaar (Het wragtig alles probeer)
5. Victor Matfield
4. Niemand nie…
3. WP Nel
2. Hannes Franklin
1. Guthro Steenkamp (Harder gewerk as enigeen in die Bulls span)
Dit was werklikwaar die SWAKSTE naweek ooit in SA Rugby, ek kan myself nie bring om nog spelers uit te sonder nie, ek dink die ouens wat ek gekies het, het rerig kop, bors en skouers bo die res uitgestaan, maar die res was almal middelmatig tot absoluut K#K!
Flip van der Merwe het goed gelyk maar 20 minute is bietjie min, ek moes sy naam net noem, Fourie du Preez was seker nie heeltemal sleg nie, maar ek verwag BAIE meer van ‘n man wat veronderstel is om die beste rugbyspeler in die wereld te wees. (Wat ek glo waar is)
Morne Steyn begin weer aan sy einde van die jaar toer 2009 koors lei… was die beste van die naweek se losskakels, maar dit se niks nie.
Saint daai is n nothing span, wat help dit my, ek moet nou namens jou name soek, maak die ding eenvoudig man. Daar is tog n beste vir die naweek, hou op difficult wees 😆
Ok, maar ek doen dit onder protes… 🙂
15. Patrick Lambie
14. Basson
13. Walter Venter
12. Riaan Swanepoel
11. Francois Hougaard
10. Morne Steyn
9. Fourie du Preez
8. Pierre Spies
7. Derrick Minnie
6. Cobus Grobbelaar
5. Victor Matfield
4. Barend Pieterse (Ek weet hy was flank, maar eintlik is hy ‘n slot, ‘n moer goeie een)
3. WP Nel
2. Hannes Franklin
1. Guthro Steenkamp
Laat almal net weet, ek is glad nie gelukkig met hierdie naweek se vertonings nie, ek kon netsowel die Bloubulle of die Pumas se Vodacom beker spanne ingeskryf het.
15. Zane Kirshner
14. Wigan Pekeur
13. Robert Ebersohn
12. Riaan Swanepoel
11. Francois Hougaard
10. Morne Steyn
9. Ruan Pienaar
8. Pierre Spies
7. Dewald Potgieter
6. Jacques Botes
5. Victor Matfield
4. Nico Luus, as Flip net 30 minute gespeel het was dit hy
3. Werner Kruger
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Gurthrö Steenkamp
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Hehehehee, ek dink in die dae toe ons nog 7 Springbok keurders gehad het was daar ook baie wat onder protes gekies is. Jy voel seker soos n seuntjie wat deur die venster loer na Kersgeskenke met die wete dat daar niks vir jou is nie.
Ek het so gevoel toe die Bulle hul Bye gehad het.
superBul,
Ons verskil oor drie posisies, en aldrie was baie close. Ek het met Wynand gegaan oor die hoeveelheid bal wat hy opgedra het en sy verdediging. Die Bulle het met hoe intensiteit aanhoudend in daardie kanaal aangeval en spel opgesit en Wynand het dit uitstekend gedoen. Die Bulle het selde summier wyd gespeel, so die opposisie het ook geweet wat Wynand moet doen en ten spyte daarvan was hy baie suksesvol. Vir my was Swanepoel se spel meer ‘n kwessie van mog-het-troffe as planmatig en dit was vir my die verskil.
Ruan het ‘n goeie game gehad, maar ek dink Fourie was strategies vir my beter en meer invloedryk met sy skoppe en dekwerk.
Op slot het ek dit vir Flip gegee al was hy so kort op want ek het net gevoel hy het ‘n merkbare verskil gemaak toe hy opkom, en ek hoop rerig Ludeke hulle sien dit raak.
Dit gese, die res van jou span is briljant gekies. Ek kon self nie beter nie! Sic!
En ek wil graag ‘n klip innie bos gooi hier. Almal het skielik ‘n stuiwer in die armbeurs te gooie oor Potties se hare, maar al die jare wat Schalk Burger met sy wit vlag lang hare gespeel het was almal se bekke stil. Netso is daar ouens soos Victor Matfield, Mametsa, Chabal, Tod Clever, Nonu en diesulkes wat jaar in en jaar uit so speel. Waarom sekere spelers uitgesonder word gaan my verstand te bowe. Elke ou het ook sy eie manier van die hare in toom hou. Victor gebruik ‘n kopskerm, Clever ‘n poniestert, Nonu ingevlegde gekleurde toutjies, Mamatsa(destyds) lang vlegsels en Potties sy eie manier met rekkies en/of ‘n kopband. Ek se hare is ‘n persoonlike voorkeur en so ook die manier waarop jy dit beheer, solank dit nie inbreek maak op jou spelpeil nie.
Ironies genoeg is al die ouens hierbo se spel van die hoogste gehalte in hul onderskeie posisies en bring hulle elk op hul eie manier ‘n stukkie uniekheid met hulle talente. Moet ons dit nou ontneem word om hulle te sien speel net omdat hulle nie die norm aanhang nie? En dit vir 80 minute ‘n week! Ek dink eerder ouens soos Loosehead en die ander kritici moet ‘n bietjie loop besin.
hehehehehehe… You Blou Bully boys have your blou sunglasses on….hahaha. 🙄
Plenty more Sharks in that team this week 😛
Okay will be back later to correct some of your choices up there 🙄
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Bluebeard ek geniet jou geselsies baie, daar word werklik rugby gepraat, hoe ons dinge bespreek maak vir my lekker om oor rugby te gesels.
Die hare storie sien ek so , daai hare is sigbaar want die man daaronder speel skitterend. Daar was a paar jaar terug gespot dat Schalk soos Simson sy kragte verloor het nadat hy mos sy hare gesny het. Eintlik was hy toe maar net minder opsigtelik en hy so pas terug van n major besering.
Ek hoop dat Dewalt dit maar sien in die lig van n hoe boom wat al die wind vat. Daar is soos jy se baie spelers wat n karakter wil skep n soort van image, dit is sy volste reg, ons is lankal weg van short backs no sides. Ja lankal terug het ek ook baie te se gehad daaroor, Percy was nie my gunsteling nie. Maar sy spel het my bek toe gespeel.
Het jy toevalig Rene Ranger se snaakse ponie gesien, so pieperige dun ene maar lank, seker maklik 40 cm. Imagine hoe lank groei hy al daaraan. Ek natuurlik die stoutgat vleuel sou hom daaraan beet try kry. Maar dan is dit presies wat hy dalk daarmee wou bereik. Waar is my konsentrasie. 😆
Kyk ek het Dewalt so gekyk, Saterdag, die man lyk wild, my ma sou as sy sy ouma was hom gas gegee het oor sy hare.
Toevalig sien ek n artikel deur vroeer vandag op Rugby Heaven Australia, “We must promote the characters in our game” by
ADAM FREIER
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/we-must-promote-the-characters-in-our-game-20100327-r4dk.html
Lees dit gerus.
Team of the week:
15. Zane Kirshner with young Patrick Lambie not far behind
14. Bjorn Basson
13. Walter Venter (Ebersohn het my nie beindruk nie)
12. Wynand Olivier
11. Francois Hougaard
10. Ruan Pienaar (Morne het ‘n raar afdag met die skopskoen beleef)
9. Fourie du Preez
8. Pierre Spies
7. Dewald Potgieter maar ook maar net-net bo Derrick Minnie
6. Jacques Botes – Beste game van hom in jarrrrrrre!
5. Victor Matfield
4. Flip van der Merwe… al het hy as plaasvervanger opgekom, die man gaan nog groot spore trap in SA Rugby.
3. Werner Kruger
2. Gary Botha – Gary was vir my steeds beter as Bissy alhoewel Bissy een van sy beter en meer gedisiplineerde dae beleef het
1. Gurthro Steenkamp – Daasie ‘n anner stut wat so hard as ou “Shrek se boetie” gewerk het hierdie naweek nie!
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Bluebeard, oor die rugby,
WO plays to the teams game plan, and does it well, a most loyal player in that backline. I said a few times during the game on Saturday i wish they skip him for a bit of variation. The fact is he recycle so well there is the feeling in the team that he will keep the phases going. And he does.
That is what the coaching staff ask from him, sometimes he breaks clean trough and scores easily, all the other times he keeps the ball.
On the Flippie vd Merwe case, he is bloody good, if he stays happy with the way we use him he will have a long career at the Bulls, i would play him in the starting team next week and move DR to the bench.
Ruan was focussed from the start, i dont want to give him too much advice but he must direct the traffic more like FdP does. I saw him a few times Saturday trying to clean out a player with a forward watching him. He must order that forward to do it so that he can scan the field ala FdP. One thing he must not do is to get involved with ref arguing the way Fourie does. FdP must calm down a bit with his ref coaching, thats my feel.
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Dankie, ek geniet dit ook om vir ‘n slag ‘n bietjie ontslae te wees van die politiek en beledigings op Voldy. Jy verduur dit aan die begin, maar dan vra jy jouself later af hoekom jy dit moet verdra.
Moet se dis ‘n wonderlike artikel wat Adam Freier daar geskryf het. Hoe spoor julle al hierdie goed op? Hy is seker die einste haker wat vir die Tahs gespeel het laasjaar, of dalk nog speel.
En ek stem saam. Vir daai blonde kop om so sigbaar te wees moet die ou onder hom seker uithaal en wys, of hoe? Ek kan nie verstaan hoekom ouens ‘n probleem met so iets so oppervlakkig soos hare sal he nie. Dis seker maar so ‘n bietjie soos Jack Parow wat vra of sy opponent se girl nie dalk ‘n foto van sy @#$%^& op haar spacecase het nie!
Hel, die ou speel rugby. Hy vra nie om met ‘n ou se dogter te trou nie. Dan sou jy dalk nog iets te se kon he oor sy hare. Moet se, ek dink hy lyk nogal vreesaanjaend vir ‘n opponent as hy die ou in sy ‘ZONE’ kry.
Vannie os op die jas, het iemand dalk vir my die regte inligting om op Verusco stats op te kyk?
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I agree about FdP’s refcoaching. I get so upset when the ball lies underneath the hindmost feet and we don’t play it. How many times haven’t we seen opposition players coming around and playing it just as it is ruled “out” and being allowed to get away with it. Or worse even, being rucked off the ball by them.
Wynand is playing to instructions. I think he is brilliant this year. I would just like to see us being less frenetic and rushed on attack. Playing a high intensity game doesn’t mean you have to rush things. We need to be clinical and hold onto those passes that are currently being dropped. Most of the tries scored against us were from those spilt passes, not bad defence.
“Little Lambie” appears to be making people sit up and take notice this week….
Lazy Sunday afternoon…..Tra La La…
It’s all very good and well to compare players based on stats, but it can never be absolute.
Firstly, problem is, you can never make allowance for everything. Firstly, take Ruggastats for instance- it doesn’t make any provision for actual time on the field, so the oke that plays 20 minutes is treated the same as the oke that played 80 minutes.
Secondly, take defence for instance- There are two ways of defending.
1. To stick on or around the gainline in the high traffic areas and wait for carriers to run at you, or
2. Attack the ball carriers as far on their side of the gainline as possible.
Thirdly, each coach has set ideas about how he wants to apply certain players in certain positions to suit the gameplan and the players skills set best.
Fourthly, different teams match up differently to one another and have an influence on how they choose to play.
And finally, external factors like weather, location, specific tactics and even the team make-up of the opposition can influence positional performance by players, like one guy being tasked to neutralize a specific opposition player.
So whatever is said, it should actually work the other way around. The stats should be used to qualify rather than define a player’s performance with reference to all the above factors and more..
15. Lambie, wtf do people see in Kitchner?
14. Pekeur
13. Venter
12. Swanepoel
11. Hougaard
10. Steyn
9. FDP
8. Spis
7. Minnie
6. Botes
5. Victor Matfield
4. Flippie, he is the successor to Bakkies
3. WP Nel
2. du Plessis
1. Steenkamp
I see that Bakkies is in France, i hope the Bulls tied up VD Merwe for a few years. Bakkies might be leaving sooner than later.
Ek wil nie snaaks wees nie, maar kom ons kyk na die SA spelers wat die naweek oorsee gespeel het, CJ vd Linde, Jean Div, Frans Steyn, Joe van Niekerk, Schalk Brits, Shaun Sowerby, Wikus van Heerden, Marius Joubert.
Nou kom ons maak ‘n span vol van hulle en laat hulle teen ENIGE van die spanne wat julle hierbo genoeg het speel, sal die expats die ‘Bokke’ se holle hel gee!
In elk geval, ek het nie al die games gekyk nie, maar die bietjie wat ek wel gekyk het het my 2 dinge gewys. Daar is genoeg jong talent wat bbesig is om hul pad na bo te speel. Ouens soos bv. Ebersohn, Lambie en Hougaard (moet dan nie van Juan de Jongh vertgeet nie) En daar is ‘n paar ouens wat nie meer lank sal kan speel nie.
Die vraag is, hoe gaan die Bok coach die saak hanteer?
GG i wont mind new faces, as long as it is not a total clean out, up to 5 new faces in the settled Bok squad will probably be a good thing.
That how it is suppose to be, the old guys must be pushed hard or out.
There is various sites picking teams, some based in Australia others in NZ. So lets keep this a local S14 team of the week, but i am open to new suggestions. We will try and improve. After all its for the fun of it.
For the first time I believe it is impossible to pick a ‘form’ SA team, cause in too many positions players were absolutely shocking.
In my books, about 8 players at best impressed.
1. Guthro
2. Bismarck
3. Kruger
4. #@^%(&*!^%#(
5. @&$%&@$&&@^&
6. Botes
7. Minnie
8. Spies
9. Ruan
10. #%*&@%*()@)
11. Hougaard
12. Swanepoel (he attacked the advantage line beautifully for me)
13. #%&*@%$&@&^%
14. #%&^*(#^&*(@
15. Lambie
Superbul- VD Merwe will be at the bulls for the longhaul. Read his interview on the Bulls site a couple of months back. I think he signed until 2012. It is quite strange that he achieved nothing when playing for hte cheatahs and now all of a sudden he is linked to taking over from the best enforcer in the business.
I too think he should start ahead of danie, danie always plays his best when coming on with 30minutes left.
And to all the bad press – The bulls won, they played damn impressive rugby and the 1st 20 minutes took the wind out of the force’s sails in the last 20 minutes. I believe they should’ve been carded in the 1st 20 minutes already as they were infringing with frightening regularity and were very lucky not to have played with 13 at one stage.
Spies attacked the line kike a guided missile! Very impressive, even more impressive that the Force brough him down, albeit with about 3 defenders hanging on for dear life.
Morne that
I cannot agree with your assessment that players were absolutely shocking in certain positions.
What in effect you are saying is that we should be very worried so close to the Trinations that the best lock in the world in Victor Matfield, plus the next best six fit contenders barring Andries Bekker, who is actually Matfield’s understudy at international level, were so bad that you could not/were not prepared to make a choice between them.
Likewise 4 of the 5 top flyhalfs in the country and all the wings that are currently international contenders.
Are we really in such strife? I say no- these okes might not have been at the peak of their prowess, but they still competed favourably against top international players, and Morne Steyn might not have had his usual 90 % kicking performance, but still acquited himself well in all other facets of the game.
Fact is, of the 4 SA teams that played, 2 actually won their games and the other two were actually both competitive for a change.
So we have to pick the best of the worse as our ‘form’ player for the week?
Morne & Naas were both shocking, so too Carlos and Goode.
Of the lot, Morne was the best of the worst but does that qualify as the SA form flyhalf for week 7 given that he was arguably the 4th worst of all teams the week?
Guys like Hougaard for instance did nothing special, in fact he was average, he got picked.
I can stomach picking average guys if an average performance equates to the best SA had on offer, but where guys had absolute shockers, sorry mate.
IN effect what you are saying is that if guys like Victor or Morne played to 50% of their potential, or worse, they can still be picked as the ‘form’ players in SA?
Sort of defies the purpose of a ‘form 15’ then dont you think?
Only guys that deserve a mention in a form 15 is:
Guthro
Bismarck (with Gary)
Botes
Minnie
Spies
Ruan.
The rest I included a bunch of average performers for the weekend and the rest, I simply could not identify ‘form’ to put them in a ‘form’ 15.
Morne i agree with Bluebeard, even if Morne played at 50% like you said and he was the best of the lot at display , he must get the vote.
I know this is the first time i ran a team of the week thing, i learn a lot but lets try it and learn. Give me advice if you think we can improve it.
I see Sport 24 gives picks a team of the week and adds their votes up for a team of the year or something like that. Funny enough we differ by 2 at most from their team. And i think many more people vote there.
Omdat ek kan manne! EK wen nooit niks so ek sal beslis bak in die glorie!
Weekend Results :
Weekend Winner : Onerb with 241 pts.
Wooden Spoon : superBul by only racking up 87 pts!
Biggest Climber : Onerb, climbing 16 positions!
Biggest Faller : superBul, falling -6 positions!
Avg Points : 121.94 pts.
Jammer super!
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