It was extremely difficult for some to pick the best performers of the week. All Bulls supporters went through this a few weeks ago. It is hard when your provincial glasses must be taken off.
The whole idea was not to make it a Springbok barometer. There was 4 players in each position and you had to pick the best one of the week.(the reserves made it sometimes more) No outright choice was made at full back and no 14.
This is the team we picked.
15. Patrick Lambie/15. Zane Kirshner
14. Wigan Pekeur/Bjorn Basson
13. Walter Venter
12. Riaan Swanepoel
11. Francois Hougaard
10. Morne Steyn
9. Fourie du Preez
8. Pierre Spies
7. Derrick Minnie
6. Jacques Botes
5. Victor Matfield
4. Flip van der Merwe
3. Werner Kruger
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Gurthro Steenkamp
Sport24 also runs a team like this. I could not see how many votes were casted , they give a % of votes for each player. What we dont know is from where do these people vote. Was most votes from Gauteng or from somewhere else.
They add all the votes that a player receives trough all the rounds and pick a overall team too. Have a look at it and make suggestions how we can make our team/s more fun to pick.
Dream team for Week 7 Overall s14 Dream Team
15. Zane Kirshner 50%— Joe Peterson 53%
14. Gerhard vd Heever 69%— Gerhard vd Heever 57%
13. Jaco Pretoruis 51% — Jaque Fourie 80%
12. Wynand Olivier 79% — Wynand Olivier 68%
11. JP Pieterson 53%— Bryan Habana 69%
10. Morne Steyn 92%— Morne Steyn 80%
9. Fourie du Preez 58%— Fourie du Preez 75%
8. Pierre Spies 76%— Pierre Spies 58%
7. Dewalt Potgieter 70%— Juan Smith 52%
6. Deon Stegman 52%— Schalk Burger 39%
5. Victor Matfield 92%— Victor Matfield 67%
4. Danie Roussouw 62% — Danie Roussouw 34%
3. Werner Kruger 34%— WP Nel 33%
2. Bismark du Plessis 47%— Gary Botha 37%
1. Gurthro Steenkamp 59%— Gurthro Steenkamp 32%
I will calculate all the votes we casted and pick a overall Rugby-Talk team later. Lets see what conspires.
OK, let’s try this format as well… here is a SURVEY, to choose the best players… enjoy!
[SURVEYS 1]
How does Sport24 make provision for byes and injuries, because looking at the overall S14 Deamteam, igf a player is out for a time , say 3 weeks, he loses three weeks vs the other guys. So that team would not be representative in the end.
Bluebeard i dont have a answer there. I really dont know how they do it. But you know even with the old 7 selector we had, there was some amazing picks.
http://promotions.sport24.co.za/teamofthetournament/
If one look at the overall S14 Dream team, you can see how they differ in opinion about the front row. Look at the low percentages. Gary Botha the only one to get a little bit more than 1/3rd of the vote.
It seems at this stage that at full back there is 2 major contenders, but with Lambie coming in that might also split up more.
Two other positions that surprise me is no 4 lock and number 6 flank. Just shows how we all differ.
I also wonder where the votes come from.
#3 Super
i don’t think the News24 dream-team offers anything in the way of any constructive choices. You don’t even have to squint, excepting left wing it is the Bulls team, obviously indicates the demographic of the majority of the voters.
Jaco Pretorius after 1 game 51%? Really, this is a nothing team, with no indication of any actual rugby-knowledge being applied.
No-one on RT even considered Pretorius, and on the News24 team, you van cast multiple votes, I think our system works best.
Oh, and the fact that neither Morne nor me could decide on 15 form players, has nothing to do with my team not playing, but rather with the fact that, 2 wins included, all the SAFFA team played crap this weekend. I hope Round 8 is better.
superbul
i agree with the comment made by Saint @ 4
problem for most bloggers started with trying to find the BEST player in his OWN position from the teams that played. apart from stand-outs like spies etc, the rest of the picks was quite difficult if not impossible, not because there were so many players who actually performed this week, but because bloggers was expected to pick the “better performers of the non-performers”!! i think that bloggers should be allowed the option of not selecting players in positions where they felt no-one performed, as other bloggers WILL indeed make picks in those positions.
nothing changes, you still will pick the player with the highest percentage of votes in the Dream Team of the Week!!
Oi, SuperBul, you will have to draw pictures for Saint and Morne Pismier…..
It is not the SA Bokke Team we pick, it is also not a team we pick who we like…. it is simply the BETTER BETWEEN SA FRANCISES PLAYERS TEAM, in other words, like SuperBul says, each week there should be about 4 SA Franchises playing, so the choice is between 4 players per position PLUS the reserves used… who performed the best in his position (you cannot consider a player for a position he did not play in) out of the available choices.
Oh, and just so that Saint understands fully, you cannot choose a player in more than one position… like he chose Gio Aplon a few weeks ago…. fark me sideways!
Wat is nou so moeilik daaraan?
Flok, the only way to make you Stormers happy is to put an individual poll up for each player position… that means one has to vote on 15 polls… and knowing you guys you would still skip some polls….
#5
and gbs @ 6
gbs, you’ve said it
….
its about the player “who performed the BEST in his position”
ie.
the player who stood head and shoulders above the rest, someone who added value to his team etc etc etc
….
i personally would rather have a scenario where someone dont want to pick players in a certain position, because he felt that no-one performed there,
than have a scenario where a guy (or a group) would go eg. for meyer bosman rather than having to pick WO (or the other way around)
I found the ideal solution…. it comes in the form of a SURVEY, which we ask on the specific thread for bloggers to continue… the SURVEY consists of 15 questions…. ie the 15 player positions…. so you have to choose one player per position, simple as that…
I will quickly draw up a survey like that… put it up here and we’ll trial run it…. how does that sound?
gbs @ 9
why
o
why
would you treat grown-ups like children?
come-on if someone like morné dont want to pick players in certain positions because he feel that NO-ONE performed in that position, then let him be
….
ok, lets make a simple example
say theres 20 guys on this site
10 bull supporters and the rest stormers
now morné come on and have problems with picking players in certain position
by coincidence 😉
the rest of the stormers supporters decide to follow his example
….
now
on the other hand the bull supporters still make their picks in the positions the stormers supporters didnt make theirs
what will happen when Super count the votes?
he will still be counting all the votes
and
still be selecting the players in EACH position with the highest number of votes!!
….
jeez, what is so difficult about that to understand? 😯
10@ Asbak – Stop being difficult and pedantic… and go do the SURVEY… it’s at the bottom of this actual Article…
Morning all.
Ok, that was easy.I just had to put in the whole Bulls team… 😆
12@ Blouste – Survey works well, does’nt it?
@ 13 gbs – It’s surely a lot more user friendly and at the end probably easier for you to do the calculations aswell.
This will also keep the guys that can’t make up their mind to pick ONLY one player.
Then they can come and blog here about whom it is that they thought just lost out…
Puma and all you Sharks…
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Johann de Jager
Durban – Andy Goode may yet play flyhalf for the Sharks in the weekend’s Super 14 match against the Reds.
The former England flyhalf was initially offered a contract for only for the Sharks’ overseas tour. It was initially unlikely he would fly back to South Africa with the team due to problems with his work permit.
However, the Sharks are apparently now set to extend his contract.
Sharks commercial manager Rudolf Straeuli on Monday confirmed Goode’s possible availability to Sport24, but did not want to say much more.
He said that a press release would be issued and questions would be answered at a press conference on Tuesday.
If Goode is unavailable, Ruan Pienaar will probably move from scrumhalf to flyhalf. Pienaar was the Sharks’ hero in Saturday’s victory over the Hurricanes in Wellington.
Pienaar was still in the dark about the move on Monday. Pienaar added that he didn’t believe it would be a problem should young fullback Pat Lambie be shifted to flyhalf.
“He did really well. He will become a good flyhalf and I’m sure he will be able to do a good job there,” said Pienaar.
Pienaar was humble about his winning kick in the dying seconds that handed the Sharks a 29-26 victory over the Hurricanes. Pienaar was also responsible for a winning touchline kick against the Crusaders in 2007.
Pienaar said the wind in the Westpac Stadium had made things difficult and his thought process was to aim for the right-hand post, try to stay calm and think back to previous successful kicks.
“It was great to finish the tour on a high.”
The win over the Hurricanes was the Sharks’ second in a row this season.
The Reds will be in a confident mood after beating the Cheetahs in Bloemfontein last Friday. It was the Reds’ first win in South Africa since 2006 and the last time they won three straight matches eight years ago.
Meanwhile, Springbok centre Adrian Jacobs will miss the rest of the Sharks’ Super 14 campaign with a dislocated shoulder.
Adi missing out from here on imo is a blessing in diguise for the Sharks !!! 😆
Hallo Ash…
yes blouste
hoe hang hulle?
Ashley
Nee wat ,mooi man .
Bulle het gewen, so my maandag is mooi BLOU !!! 😉
blouste @ 19
uhm
ek wil nou nie spoke opjaag nie
maar
dit is eintlik al dinsdag nê?
Aag wat’s die ou klein verskilletjie tussen Maandag en Dinsdag nou tussen vrinne? 🙂
My week het so vinnig begin, sorry man… 😉
Anyway ,jy weet wat ek bedoel !!!
JJ Harmse sal sy gat afskrik as hy sy artikels op ‘n lewendige blog plaas…flippen pretender…
@ 22… 😕
#23
Nee ou f#k alleen weet. Dis ‘n post wat ek gister geskryf het, en toe op een of ander manier hier geplaas het. Een van daai mysteries van die lewe…
O wee my volk.
Dis tog so eenvoudig, as jy voel jy kan nie n span kies nie skip die week.
Stel dit so se nou julle moet n Russiese span kies uit hull top ses kompetisie, nou weet ons die standaard is so laag dat niemand eers die RT span kan haal nie, maar tog moet jy die beste vir HULLE kompetisie kies.
Jy het twee keuses- los dit of doen dit op hul standaard
Nou terug na ons kompetisie die S14, ja die standaard was dalk laer want die gode het nie gespeel nie. Maar kies nou maar vir een week die armsalige sukkelende vodde Bulle. Volgende week kan julle dalk hom weer vol pak met die …..
superbul @ 25
hehehe
ek dink jy neem aan dat morné ens ens nie die span wou kies nie, omdat die stormers nie gespeel het nie
ek dink jys verkeerd
kom ons stel dit so …. msteyn, fdupreez, matfield ens het alreeds ñ standaard daar gestel waarvolgens hulle gemeet word, nie waar nie?
en as hulle nie daai standaard maak nie (lees swak game/s beleef) kyk jy outomaties na ander spanne om te kyk wie impress, reg?
as jy hulle daar nie vind nie, beteken dit jy moet tussen ouens kies wat nie rerig perform het nie.
wat is dan so moeilik daaraan om 1 of 2 ouens toe te laat om ñ spelers te kies in posisies waar hulle voel ouens wel perform het, aangesien die res van die ouens wat hier blog wel volle spanne gaan kies?
die spelers met die meeste stemme gaan nog STEEDS gekies word
en die ouens wat nie wou nomineer nie, kan mos dan nie agterna moan, is dit reg?
Ash met daai houding sal jy nerens kom in n keurkomitee nie. Jy moet tog iemand kies ou. As die Bok span deur PdV gekies word en hy los 3 plekke oop, dan loop ek sommer daar in en verwerf my eerste en enigste Bok jersey. Dit sal nou moerse wees. Ek soek al lankal so kans. Hoop net nie dis in die voorry nie, dans ek dood. 😆
26
daai laaste deel is seker so maar jy kan nie submit as jy nie alle plekke gepick het nie. Sorry. Dis hoe dit is. Deur Steve. 😆
super @ 27
ernstig, gaan dit so ñ groot verskil aan die persentasies maak as 1 of twee ouens nie sekere posisies kies nie?
ja, ek sal dit nie maak in ñ keurkomitee nie, want tot sover het ek nog nie eens die helfte va die sa spanne se games gesien nie, wat nog te sê vd res van die games, en dis hoekom ek nie kies nie!!
komaaaaaaaaaaaaaan dit is suppose om fun te wees!! 😀
anyway, open ñ thread daaroor en luister wat die ander ouens daaroor te sê het. maak dan ñ besluit daarvolgens.
super @ 28
lol
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