61 Responses to Rugby-Talk team of the weekend- Super 14- Week 2

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  grootblousmile on 22 February 2010 at 11:19 am

  Helloooooooooooooo

  Verskoon maar hoe ek praat vanoggend… my lip lê weer daaaaarrrrr doer onner oppie vloerrrrrr… flokken tandarts!

  I see many of you think Mjekevu had a brilliant game…. yip, maybe scoring 3 tries… but hell where was the Lions defence… and that unfortunately includes Mjekevu and old man JP Joubert.

  Lionel Mapoe did bloody well at outside centre for the Staat against tha Guppies…. I thought about including him at 13 in stead of Mossie… but what swung me away was the fact that he’s a wing, not a centre… this was a stop-gap position he played due to Cheetahs injuries… but I admit, he did well. The boytjie will be a Bok soon.
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  Ashley on 22 February 2010 at 11:29 am

  31
  flokken tandarts?
  huh-uh
  flokken kondensmelk!! hehehe

  o, en halloooooooooooooooooooooo gbs!!
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  The Saint on 22 February 2010 at 11:32 am

  #31

  I did include Mapoe at centre, but I added Mossie because I was afraid SuperBul says the man is out of position. I think he should stay there, definitely has promise in the centre, SA has millions of wings, but centres and flyhalves we short….

  Not as badly as the Sharks though.
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  grootblousmile on 22 February 2010 at 11:36 am

  32@ Asbak – Nee, dissie die kondensies se skuld nie… daai gebreekte tanne was omlat ek aan biltong kou en my tande baie kere misbruik het innie verlede om soos wire-strippers te werk… o ja, en die tandarts sê ek skrop my tanne te hard elke keer as ek borsel… so ek gebruik nou een van daai elektriese tanneborsels wat jou hele bek laat bewe en die tandepaste ooral heen fling!

  Djou ou Stormpoppies het goed gelyk, net jammer hulle is noggie in rat om bonuspunte vir drieë te verdien nie.

  Bulle was goed man, dis soooooooo lekwar om ‘n Bul te wees!
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  superBul on 22 February 2010 at 11:37 am

  Helloooo Ashley, 100 posts and we hit the 70 000th post on Rugby Talk.
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  superBul on 22 February 2010 at 11:41 am

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  Saint ek kan mos nou nie Mapoe uitgooi nie hy het opgedraf met daai nommer 13 op sy rug en wie se hy sal nie daai trui syne maak nie. Kyk die span is die week sn en hy het daar gespeel.
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 11:58 am

  Teen die pas wat die Bulle nou slotte verloor, gaan Heini Adams seker moet slot speel teen die Stormers in die laaste rondte !
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  Hokaai on 22 February 2010 at 12:01 pm

  Flip vd Merwe really impressed me. Was very worried with all the Bull locks hurt and he came through very well. I almost rate him better than Danie (after only one game though).

  Full Back – Riaan Viljoen also made some bloopers, so I will give Joe Pieterson the nod.

  Wings – Mjekevu scored three tries but in that freak show, it does not count as much as Habana and Aplon’s hard work.

  Centers – no contest. Fourie and Olivier. (Mapoe is wing).

  Flyhalf – Morne by a mile

  Scrum – …(Swallow hard)… have to give to January, but FdP very close behind.

  Loosies – Spies, Juan Smith and Stegmann (who is slowly overtaking Brussow). Do not understimate the hits and runs Spies made!

  Locks – Flip vd Merwe and Matfield

  Front row – Kruger, Liebenberg and Steenkamp. Werner Kruger must be one of the most improved players since CC 2009.
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  Hokaai on 22 February 2010 at 12:05 pm

  15 Joe Pieterson
  14 Gio Aplon
  13 Jacque Fourie
  12 Wynand Olivier
  11 Brian Habana
  10 Morne Steyn
  9 Enrico Januarie
  8 Pierre Spies
  7 Juan Smith
  6 Deon Stegmann
  5 Victor Matfield
  4 Flip van der Merwe
  3 Werner Kruger
  2 Tiaan Liebenberg
  1 Guthro Steenkamp
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 12:06 pm

  Goeie nuus vir Bulle (en minder goeie nuus vir Tahs): Spies, Dewald en Danie sal reg wees vir Saterdag.

  Jaco P sal nie reg wees nie.
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  The Saint on 22 February 2010 at 12:07 pm

  Ok, let’s just get something straight here…this is the barometer based on the performance of the last game played. Why the hell does everyone have Matfield as lock? Van der Merwe was brilliant all over the park, in the line-outs and on defence. Matfield lost 2 Line-outs that was thrown to HIM, he missed 3 tackles and had 2 knocks…all this while Bekker did nothing wrong for the Stormers, made 3times the amount of tackles any other lock made, and joined about 75% of all rucks and mauls. Yes, Matfield is brilliant, we all know that, but on the day, there is no way.
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  superBul on 22 February 2010 at 12:10 pm

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  Enige idee waar is JvdW
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  The Saint on 22 February 2010 at 12:11 pm

  Oh ja, and the hype about Spies…IMHO if they played Steenkamp & Kuhn on the flank and Potgieter at 8, the side will be much better balanced, and with Spies absent, you would have 3 players that could contest for the ball…

  Spies is a fluke, honestly, ask Aplon, he is just as easy to tackle as Wycliff Palu, may be an excellent impact player, but IMO, that is it.

  Ok, now you can start shouting.
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  The Saint on 22 February 2010 at 12:12 pm

  #42

  Hang iewers aan ‘n dwarspaal met ‘n weird T-Shirt aan, het iemand die klein kortgat al daar afgehaal na 2007?
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  superBul on 22 February 2010 at 12:14 pm

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  Stem amper saam maar nog nie. Jy is reg die is n barometer tipe span kies, so mense moenie kies met die Bokspan in gedagte nie. Dat Bekker een van sy beter wedstryde gespeel het is ook waar. Maar ek het Matfield se spel goed gevind. Dit is waarom die span deur 5 keurders gekies word een van elke span. 😆
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 12:15 pm

  41: Saint, dieselfde geld seker ook vir Fourie vs Mapoe. Almal weet Fourie is ons beste buitesenter, maar as ons gaan net op die naweek se wedstryde, dan moet Mapoe bo Fourie gekies word, al is Mapoe eintlik ‘n vleuel.

  My mening oor ander moeilike keuses, is:

  Januarie het vir sy eie standaarde vir ‘n slag goed gespeel, maar FDP se gemiddeld was nog steeds beter.

  Habana was soos altyd goed, maar die Leeu vleuel was ook baie goed, ons gee hom ‘n kans.

  Kanko het ‘n paar goeie lopies ingekry, maar Spies se ‘over all’ agsteman spel is net soveel beter.

  Bekker was ook goed, speel elke wedstryd beter, maar Matfield se bydrae vir die span op die dag is nogsteeds beter.

  So kan ‘n mens aangaan, sekere posisies is moeilik te kies. Maar, so het elkeen sy eie opinie.
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  Morné on 22 February 2010 at 12:17 pm

  #31,

  Correct, Lions team not exclusively two individuals.

  The Lions defenses were breached more in midfield than close quarters and out wide from my observations.

  For those two getting my vote was firstly that any individual who can step seasoned international veterans in such a way that they look to be standing still and only react two seconds later takes some bloody skill – which is why I was very impressed with the Lions youngster.

  Joubert had a very good game at 9. His distribution was silky smooth, his clearances precise and fast and his positional play good enough.

  What has clinched it for him above Fourie and Ricky for me was the fact that on attack, the Lions were able to build a hell of a lot of momentum with the ball in hand on attack – the guy to control momentum while in possession and from tackle point to tackle point, is the halfback and I think Joubert was superb in this aspect of the game.
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 12:21 pm

  42: net besig om sy laaste bakkie rys te eet, dan is hy op die vliegtuig oppad.

  ernstig: FL het genoem dat hy hierdie week aansluit by die Bulle, hoop hul sit hom op die bank, sal graag wil sien hoe lyk sy spel in die laaste 20 min.

  43: Ai Saint, net toe ek begin dink het hier is nog ‘n WP ou wat sy rugby ken … gaan lees maar gerus wat sê rugbykenners wêreldwyd van spelers soos Spies.

  Oud Aussie (Adam Freyer) skryf as volg:

  “The Bulls are the team to beat in South Africa. They have an aura about them, which radiates mostly from Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha and Pierre Spies. A hooker’s nightmare is a beautiful spiral torpedo punt from Morne Steyn that flies over your head and on for another 40 metres, and then having to run back, at altitude, to pick up the ball and take it towards these three giants. It feels a bit like being a 17-year-old with no ID walking up to three massive bouncers. You don’t feel as if you have a chance, but you have a crack anyway.”
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 12:26 pm

  43: “IMHO if they played Steenkamp & Kuhn on the flank” ? Saint, Guthro op flank ? Ja, ek weet ou Guthro is blitsig op stut deesdae en speel baie goed nou, maar flank ?
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  superBul on 22 February 2010 at 12:28 pm

  Sorry, Richie, it’s time to get back to the business of bruising bodies and robbing breakdowns.

  Richie McCaw isn’t due back until March 6, but Friday night’s 41-20 drubbing by the Queensland Reds is expected to bring the openside flanker on to the Crusaders bench for next weekend’s match against the Sharks at AMI Stadium.

  Permitted to skip up to three Super 14 matches as part of a “sabbatical” clause in his New Zealand Rugby Union contract, it was anticipated McCaw would be rested until the match against the Blues.

  Any such hopes expired in the muggy heat of Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium and McCaw is likely to replace Jonathan Poff in the reserves next Friday night.

  “Part of the plan is that he will be available for the bench,” Crusaders coach Todd Blackadder confirmed yesterday. “He’s definitely keen to come back … he’s breaking down the door to play.”
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  grootblousmile on 22 February 2010 at 12:35 pm

  48@ BiDiBiDi – Was jy by die perskonferensie Saterdagaand op Roftus… want dis juis net daar waar Frans Ludeke gesê het Jaco (Moses) van der Weshuizen is op pad terug… ek is skerp ou bees… vlym-fokken-skerp!
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  The Saint on 22 February 2010 at 12:38 pm

  #49

  OK, koek in my gesig…ek het bedoel Stegmann…maar ek is seker jy weet dit.

  #48

  bidibi, nie eers ander WP ondersteuners stem met my saam nie, inteendeel, ek twyfel of enigeen saamstem, dis maar my opinie, maar ek glo dit desnieteenstaande. Spies se hande het hom al ‘n paar keer DIE jaar in die steek gelaat, asook sy verdediging. Hy mis meer tackles as enige losvoorspeler in Suid Afrika maar niemand se iets daaroor nie.

  Flok, die ou lyk impressive, hy is moer sterk, en hardloop moer vinnig, maar eerlikwaar, hoeveel turnovers het hy al gewen? Hoeveel keer is hy van besit ontneem omdat hy vir die ondersteuning weghardloop? Dis net soos Kankowski…daai man sal nie eers my reserwebank haal nie, want ek kan netsowel ‘n vleuel op 8ste man kies, en hy sal meer doen as Kanko op ‘n goeie dag, en hy is vinniger.

  Spies het die potensiaal om een van die grootste bokke ooit te word, maar hy moet werk aan sy tekortkominge, maar kan jy hom rerig vergelyk met iemand soos Teichman, Zinzan Brooke of Morne Du Plessis? Ek twyfel, behalwe as jy vir jouself lieg.
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 12:42 pm

  Nog meer slegte nuus vir Tahs: Matfield is vrygespreek, kan saterdag speel.

  Wat word van hierdie wêreld, ‘n Bloubul wat vrygespreek word !

  😉
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 12:43 pm

  51: ek het my ‘spies’ orals !

  Nee, ek het dit iewers vanoggend in ‘n artikel gelees op die internet.
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  superBul on 22 February 2010 at 12:45 pm

  Saint ek sien ook sy knocks, maar hulle kos ons gewoonlik nie games nie. Hy het daai x faktor, die ander spanne word deur hom besig gehou. Of hulle bly ver weg van sy kanaal so dit beinvloed hul spel. Nee kyk Bulle is nie stupid nie hulle gebruik hom bleddie goed.

  As hy nog beter moet word … nee wag hy is goed. Die hele wereld sien dit.
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  Ashley on 22 February 2010 at 12:47 pm

  does anyone know whether Quasimodo has been cited?
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  superBul on 22 February 2010 at 12:47 pm

  53
  Waar sien jy dit
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 12:55 pm

  52: Saint, ek het nog niks vergelykings getref tussen Spies en ander grotes van die agsteman spel nie. Nou dat jy dit noem, ek sal graag wil hoor by Zinzan, Gary en Morne du P wat hul dink van Spies se agstemanspel ?

  Daar was ‘n stadium wat Spies se hande hom baie in die steek gelaat het, voor 2009, maar daarna het dit goed gegaan, en word dit net beter.

  Mense verwag dat ELKE keer as hy aan die bal raak daar een of ander wonderwerk moet gebeur, en as dit nie gebeur nie, dan dink baie hy het ‘n swak wedstryd. Nee man, hy is ook maar mens, soos enige ander goeie agsteman deur die jare, maak hy ook sy foute, maar hy was nie verniet voorste S14 driedrukker onder voorspelers nie.

  So terloops, ek geniet dit baie as Spies vir almal weghardloop en drieë druk, veral op Loftus !

  Die man is alreeds ‘n legende, en hy is nou eers 24. Maak vrede daarmee, ou Saint.

  Verder is daar nie huidiglik ‘n agsteman in SA wat naastenby naby Spies op sy beste is nie.

  Het die naweek spesiaal vir Duane Vermeulen dopgehou, en daar was nie eers ‘n vergelyking nie. Duane moet eerder kompeteer vir nr.7 flank teen spelers soos Juan, Dewald, Deysel. Duane is nie sleg nie, maar heeltemal te stadig en swaar vir agsteman (lyk of hy soos Alberts bietjie aan die dik kant raak ?)
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  The Saint on 22 February 2010 at 12:55 pm

  #55

  Dis die mense rondom hom wat sy foute cover, terwyl hy die bul posterboy is, sit hom in ‘n swakker span, dan kan daai knocks skielik meer ernstig word.

  Dis nie dat ek die ou nie like nie, maar mense maak van hom iets wat hy nie is nie. Hy is definitief nie een van die beste ooit nie, hy kan dit dalk nog word. Op die oomblik is hy maar eintlik net een van die bestes wat ons het.
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  bdb on 22 February 2010 at 1:00 pm

  57: op die veld dit is mos duidelik om te sien hy is onskuldig !
  😉

  Hier: http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/super14/news/2245080.htm