After the last Test of the Springbok End of Year Tour I found it necessary to get into contact with Professor Tim Noakes, SA’s leading Sports Scientist and also a blogger on this web site, raising the issues of player fatigue and knowing that he has been shouting and warning from the rooftops that SA Players will suffer burnout if not managed properly. Maybe it is best if I share the full sequence of the discussions with you lot nosy muppits….

Well here it is… and I warn you, this is for the devoted reader and true rugby lover….

FIRST MAIL:

Tim,
 
One could see the tired bodies and the emotional tiredness on the faces of some Springboks this Saturday, most notably that of Victor Matlield, his expression said it all.
 
What was perplexing however, was that the other 2 major Southern Hemisphere Teams, the All Blacks and the Wallabies, probably had their respective best games of the season on Saturday… no signs of fatigue at all.
 
I can understand the Australian situation, they do not have a domestic competition which rivals the Currie Cup, so play less games in general than South Africans.
 
The New Zealand situation is vastly different though, they have their strong domestic competitions as well and most All Blacks must have played in a similar amount of games compared to the Springboks.
 
Could it be that the Springboks are mentally somehow more fatigued or not properly mentally led by qualified personnel within the Bokke setup… or is it mostly a physical fatigue factor.
 
Kindly explain to me why there is such a marked difference, if you would, by means of a return mail…. I will then put an Article up with the relevant questions and your explanations…
 
Come on, I’m pushing the soap box right in front of your nose now, time to preach to the masses and to the children (SARU) and the unconverted (Unions)… hahaha.
 
Regards,
 
GBS
(Rugby-Talk)

 

REPLY:

Dear GBS,

The Ausssies and the Kiwi train smarter in my view.  We still have the mentality (in the Provinces) that you have to stuff up the players at every opportunity and that this is how they will develop the discipline to win.   All the rest of the world realizes that matches are excellent training so that once you start playing matches you need to focus on rest and recovery.  The Bok coaching staff know this and rest the players and train the Boks very little when they are in charge of the Boks.

I attach an article I sent to the Cape Times yesterday.  I am not sure if they are going to use it.  You are welcome to use it AS SOON AS THE CAPE TIMES HAVE MADE A DECISION ON IT.  Perhaps you can be in touch with the Cape Times editorial staff to see what they want to do.  I doubt they will publish the article in its entirety but you are welcome to do so.

My major point remains that (i) the consequences of the tour will be felt in 2010 and 2011; (ii) what happened on the tour had been predicted by myself and the Springbok fitness trainer (amongst many others at the Institute involved in monitoring the players) and (iii) the focus of the end of year tour has to change completely so that it is a positive and not a negative for SA rugby.  We have to develop a credible reserve team of upcoming players who can beat the Six Nations teams.  Jake White would be able to do that and there must be other SA coaches who are up to the task.  But unless the team plays together during the year (as I suggest in the article) they will not be able to play to their potential.

Best wishes,

Tim

 

ARTICLE:

In his article “European tour was a complete failure on the scoreboard, but top Boks were physically shot” published on Monday November 30th, Peter Bills ask if “there is anyone in the Springbok squad and party who can see the wood for the trees?”   He concludes that the Springbok players on the recent European tour were “shot, gone, completely finished”.  As a result “everyone was going through the motions.  Neither their hearts nor their bodies were in it from the start”.  Nor it might be added their brains since it is the brain which drives the body (or chooses not to do so when the body is exhausted).

At a press conference organized in Johannesburg on November 4th by Discovery Health, the commercial sponsors of the Springbok medical support team, I presented evidence to explain why 13 Springboks should not be touring Europe in November 2009.  The evidence related not so much to the certainty that the majority of those Springboks would play poorly on the tour – that was sufficiently predictable that it required no intelligent debate – but rather to the long term consequences of this ill-considered decision.

Since 8 (including Pierre Spies) of those 13 players are from the Blue Bulls, that team will be the first to suffer the fallout from the recent European tour.  For those 7 (excluding Spies whose injury will mercifully insure that he is properly rested before the 2010 season) now require an extended period of rest, preferably 8 weeks if next year they are again to do justice to their proven abilities.

But as a direct result of the European tour, those players will only be properly rested if they miss the start of the 2010 Super 15 tournament.   Their absence from those games will impact on the probability that the Blue Bulls will successfully defend their Super 14 crown.  Alternatively should those players begin training too soon so that they play in the first games of that tournament, they will be insufficiently rested; they will carry their fatigue into the 2010 season; all will under-perform at some time next year and some or all will be injured.   The end result will be that unless either the Sharks or the Stormers can fill the gap vacated by a wounded Bulls team, no South African team will dominant the 2010 Super 15 as did the Bulls this year.  The immediate consequence will be that the Springboks will also not be as dominant in the 2010 Tri-Nations as they were this year since psychological dominance over the New Zealand teams during the Super 14 is an important determinant of Springbok success in the Tri-Nations.   This lost dominance will have to be regained by 2011 if South Africa is to win the 2011 Rugby World Cup.   But that task has now been made more difficult and a positive outcome in 2011 has become less likely as a result.

The Bulls need to learn from the Stormers who were taught a hard lesson when they failed to rest four Springboks at the end of the 2008 season.  In the 2008 season those 4 players accumulated 7937 minutes of match play; in 2009 they could manage a meagre 2830 minutes between them – a 64 % reduction in the return on the investment made in them by the Stormers, Western Province and SA Rugby.  One of those players Conrad Jantjies played almost no top-level rugby in 2009 after clocking 2176 minutes in 2009.   It is my opinion that if each of the leading Blue Bull players who accumulated more than 1800 minutes of match play this year is not rested properly before the 2009 season, some will suffer the same fate as did the Stormers’ Springboks in 2009.

The group of Bulls players includes Pierre Spies (2068 minutes – now injured),  Morne Steyn (2018 minutes),  Zane Kirchner (1961 minutes),  Odwa Ndungane (1906 minutes),  Guthro Steenkamp (1844 minutes – also injured),  Fourie du Preez (1835 minutes).  Victor Matfield who had accumulated 1695 minutes before the European tour, who played two additional test matches on the Tour and the game against the Barbarians and who was clearly the Springbok most affected by end-of-season fatigue, will also finish the season with more than 1800 minutes of match play.   In the past 7 seasons Bakkies Botha has not been able to stay injury-free the following season if he played more than 1350 minutes in the previous season.  Prior to the European tour he had already accumulated 1454 minutes.  Thus his back injury on the tour was a predictable “accident” waiting to happen.

Other Springboks who accumulated more than 1800 minutes of match play in 2009 and who are therefore also in need of urgent, long-term rest are Bismarck du Plessis (2422 minutes – probably an all-time Springbok record),  John Smit (2081 minutes),  Tendai Mtawarira (1913 minutes) and Heinrich Brussouw (1718 minutes).  Their totals do not include the additional minutes they accumulated in the 3 most recent European tests.

Although I do not believe that the underperformance of key players was the most critical consequence of the recent European Tour, I fully agree with Peter Bills’ considered opinions.  It is profoundly disturbing still to read the opinions of those experts who believe that a Springbok rugby player never tires, regardless of what he is forced to endure.  As a result these fundis conclude that factors other than fatigue must explain the poor Springbok performances on the European tour. Unfortunately as Bills writes, this is also the publicly expressed opinion of the Springbok rugby captain.

But none of these experts has offered an alternate explanation of how almost all the players in a team that was so dominant just 4 months ago in the Tri-Nations, can quite suddenly be afflicted by a shared disease of profound under-performance.  The only logical explanation must be that those Springboks, who include some of the world’s best players in their respective positions, suddenly wilfully chose to play poorly.  But no world-class athlete ever reaches a position of such eminence if he entertains such thoughts.  This explanation is just stupid.

The reality is that if the Springboks were playing in the world’s most professional football codes – the National Football (gridiron) League in the United States or the Australian (Rules) Football League – their physical underperformance during these recent test matches would have been measured to the nearest Watt, centimetre or meter per second.   Then there would have been no debate about the extent of their recent physical decline.  The absence of proper measurement prevents the exposure of this truth.

The reason why there is no such measurement is also clear.  Some must believe that it is not in their interests if the real extent of this physical exhaustion were to be established and more widely known.  For then the tired players would have to be properly rested and managed and those who failed to act in the players’ interests might be legally accountable.  Instead we avoid the measurement and so suffer the predictable consequences.

Still other experts argue that on their recent European tours, the Wallabies and All Blacks did not appear as tired as the Springboks.  This apparently proves that our players have no reason to be tired; instead the spectre of Springbok fatigue must be a convenient excuse for those players’ wilful choice to under-perform.   But this conclusion ignores two inconvenient facts.

First, the Wallabies are contractually required to rest for 63 consecutive days each year.  During that period their employers, the Australian Rugby Union, can make no demands on its contracted players.  If the Springboks had a similar contract they would certainly have less excuse to be tired.

Second the New Zealand players especially those from the Pacific Islands, do not train as do South African rugby players.  Rather they focus on explosive training of high intensity and short duration with an almost complete absence of endurance running.  It is my opinion that for those players this form of training undertaken is less exhausting over the course of the season than is the typical training to which South African rugby players are exposed.   Indeed current Springbok conditioning coach, Neels Liebell, is on record as saying that when he finally has control of the Springboks’ training especially on the end-of-the-year tours, he finds that the players are so exhausted that he must focus on rest and recuperation  so that they are able to achieve at least some level of performance on the field.

If the Springboks are indeed more tired than they should be on the basis of the minutes of match play they accumulate each season, then the cause will be found in inappropriately demanding training programs with inadequate attention to recovery during the Super 14 and Currie Cup competitions.

Finally a solution must be found for this end-of-year tour debacle if South African rugby is to move to the next level of achievement.  The intellectual solution to the problem is relatively simple.  Either a decision must be made to exclude from the Currie Cup, all uninjured Springboks who have accumulated significant game time in the Super 14, Tri-Nations and incoming Tours.  During this period they need to be ordered home to spend time with their families.   Or alternatively only those Springboks who have played less than a certain number of minutes of match play each year, different for each player, should be considered for the end-of-year-tour.   Springboks who wish to or are needed on the tour will have to be removed from the Currie Cup regardless of all other considerations.

The leading South African players who are not regular Springboks need to form a team under the best available coach and train together for as long as possible between the end of the Super 14 and the start of the Currie Cup.  Properly prepared for European playing conditions and knowledgeable of their opposition, there is no reason why, under a world-class coach, such a team would not be able to outperform a group of tired Springboks on an end-of-year tour.  Given this responsibility, the team would flourish and finally prove that South Africa does indeed have the depth of rugby talent that is so frequently claimed.

The inexplicable paradox is that those who manage South African rugby have proven that they are deeply committed to making this country the world’s leading rugby nation.  But they seem unable to comprehend the magnitude of the damage that the end-of-year tours inflict on that ambition.

Sooner or later a creative solution has to be found to this self-inflicted problem.  Continuing with the current approach simply makes no sense. 

I thank Justin Durandt and Professor Mike Lambert of the High Performance Centre of the Sports Science Institute of South Africa for the data on Springbok playing times.

Professor Tim Noakes,
University of Cape Town and Sports Science Institute of South Africa, Newlands.

 

SECOND MAIL:

Tim,
 
Thank you very much for the response and Article, I will contact the Editorial Staff at the Cape Times just now and hear what they say.
 
I see that Mike Lambert and Justin Durandt was copied in to your reply to me. May I use this opportunity to make my acquaintances here with these gentlemen and say that our Rugby web site, www.rugby-talk.com
  is a supporter-driven SA Rugby web site, no journalistic bull is sold there, we love and discuss rugby… and when the rugby chatter is exhausted, we just have fun. Kindly visit the site, register there and add your voices to the voice of Tim Noakes, myself and the real supporters out there.
 
Tim, I’m one of the converted as far as your viewpoints are concerned… and certainly share your sentiments regarding the way the Unions train or overtrain the players. It is not the first time that I hear the argument about how differently the Kiwi’s train on the practise field and I now understand the significant difference in the End of Year Tour results.
 
To my mind however, there were other contributing factors too which negatively impacted on the Tour results, some of the major factors being:

  • Match squad selection for the 2 midweek games (apart from those selected to go on tour who should never have gone or been chosen) was strange, the use of combinations totally neglected! By this I mean that they employed front rows who had never played with the man next to him and / or behind him in the scrums, the loose forwards were not selected with the proper balance required between a FETCHER at openside, a GRAFTER / TACKLER at blindside and a HANDS OF GOLD STRIKE RUNNER at No 8. In the midweek backline, the halfback pairings had never played together before, neither the centres and the back 3 were from 3 differing Unions as well. In other words, cohesion was neglected.
  • The UNDERVALUE placed on scrumming by Gary Gold, who argues that because there is only about 10 scrums per game with your own throw-in into the scrum. What this view neglects is that 10 bad scrums affect ALL PHASES directly thereafter, where suddenly the pressure on ball possession increases, the opposing loosies and backline are in a more favourable position to turn ball over or slow ball down, which again impacts on the phases thereafter. In addition we gave away at least 6 – 12 points in penalties resulting from “Bad scrummaging”…. and that is the difference between winning and losing. We saw WP and the Stormers struggle and have the now renowned “LIGHT FIVE” reputation when Gary Gold was the forwards coach there… and now we see that the Bokke suddenly have lapsed too and are fielding a so-called “LIGHT FIVE”. Face it, our forwards are’nt feared world wide anymore!
  • The lack of a PLAN B  and executing PLAN B during game time.
  • Playing players out of position and or continuing with the John Smit at TIGHT HEAD experiment, till BJ Botha was finally brought in, injury enforced. This does not only apply to John Smit though, it also spills over to a guy like Andries Bekker who is a typical No 5 lock (in the Victor Matfield mould) and not an enforcer No 4 lock, so to have two typical No 5’s as locks just do not cut it in a game.
  • Players not taken on TOUR… in this regard I want to refer to red-hot players like Willem Alberts, Duane Vermeulen, WP Nel, Sarel Pretorius (scrummie), Lionel Mapoe…. the list goes on. In stead, players way out of form (Gurthro Steenkamp, Chiliboy, Ryan Kankowski, Adi Jacobs) and other players who did not merit inclusion in the first place (Davon Raubenheimer, Bandise Maku). If Second Tier strenght is to be developed or “DEPTH” developed, then certainly there are better ways of achieving this…. like making an “EMERGING BOKKE” team and having them play regularly in a year, go on tour and develop as proper backup.

Anyway, one can probably write a book on the contributing factors alone… and opinions differ… I realise that.
 
Enjoy your day, gentlemen!
 
Regards,
 
GBS
Rugby-Talk

 

REPLY:

Dear GBS,

I agree fully.  We should not fall foul of trying to reduce everything to one simple explanation.  

There is clearly an absence of proper planning and forward thinking.  

These coaches would simply not survive in a really competitive environment like the NFL.  So the problem in SA rugby remains – lack of a really competitive coaching structure that produces world-class coaches who do 99% of things correct all the time – not just ocassionally.  Something has to happen to the end of year tour.  It is a profoundly destructive tour.

Tim

155 Responses to Tim Noakes and GBS debates… interesting stuff!!

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  • 1

    tim is ‘n slim jan ne hy se ‘n paar dinge wat BAIE sin maak

  • 2

    Woooow this is a long article.

    I never bought the tired stories and watching(sorry i lie, hearing since DSTV did not show it)the Baabaas game vs the All Blacks and the excellent play by FdP , Victor and Habana…, did they look like tired blokes?

    But i see that Graham Henry also complains about tiredness, is this now because they lost their first game?

    The fact is i dont need rugby for 11 months off the year. Yes the first warm up games started in mid January and the last game was played in the last week of December. So i fully support a 9 month season. At most 10 months.

  • 3

    Ja maar ook n paar wat baie veralgemeen wat my betref. Kyk sy siening oor beserings. Ek stem nie saam met alles daar nie.

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    3
    Many injuries happen to players coming back from injuries. They come back fresh and properly rested and then they are at their most vulnerable ,because they are not match hardened.

    Also injuries happen to the fittest players too, take a knee, if you are running and your feet are not anchored to the ground almost all tackles is harmless. When you are stepping and anchored to the ground your knee takes all the impact, and injury is very much on, that has nothing to do with tired bodies.

    So predicting more injuries for next season makes me wonder how on earth did we get away almost totally injury free this year. This year was wonderful for us , very few disruptions with injuries.

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    Like i said what GH said made me rethink , so it was not only us that felt it , the AB,s did too.

    Graham Henry will appeal to the Super 14 coaches this week to sensibly manage the workloads of the country’s top players.

    At end of a marathon season the All Blacks coach said it was increasingly important in the modern game that players were not ground into the ground.

    The issue will be discussed with the Super 14 coaches in Wellington this Friday.

    “It might not be all about physical conditions, or skills or mental skills, it might be how much rugby they play.

    “Can we keep them to a high level with the amount of rugby they play or do they need a bit of space from time to time and can we agree on how best to do that.”

    Henry stressed he was not going to demand rest periods and did not want to see any players taken out of the Super 14.

    “They’re not going to be a month out of the game, but a guy might play for three weeks and he needs a break for a week, so he gets out of the environment and gets away.

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    Part2 of what Graham Henry said

    “Otherwise they are going to be playing rugby 10 months a year for the next two years and they will be buggered. They are buggered now.”

    Many of the top All Blacks were clearly mentally fatigued by the end of the squad’s six week end of year tour.

    They will face another gruelling season next year with the World Cup to follow in 2011.

    But Henry said player workloads were a long term problem that needed to be addressed for the better of the game.

    “It’s not about the World Cup, it’s about these guys continuing their careers at a high level and increasing their longevity.”
    Coach Graham Henry admits to concerns about the gap between the All Blacks’ top-15 and the rest, and will continue to rotate his rugby squad in next year’s tests as the World Cup looms.

  • 7

    GBS
    i agree with you in not blaming the fatigue factor for our losses on the EOY tour.
    We were simply beaten by better teams on the day playing in their own back yards.

    Also like you said our game plan does not have a Plan B.

  • 8

    Lastly i also agree that players must be managed , but how do you keep a Victor Matfield off the field? For me it is all about the length of the season, it must be shortened with a full month and like Graham Henry said players must have certain games off.

  • 9

    Nouja… I’m back from visiting Handbriekie in hospital…

    Whassaaaaaaaaaaahappening??

  • 10

    9-GBS – Wow, information straight from the horses mouth here………

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    10@ Carol – You calling me a horse or what??

    Hehehe

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    11 – You know how I just ADORE horses!!

    Think yourself lucky!

    Have to say Victor did look remarkably ‘perky’ on Saturday!!

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    12@ Carol – Yip, he did look perky… you know, a lot of the “fatigue factor” also has to do with the mental factor… when the strongest muscle in the human body, the brain, is fully switched on, the body will mostly follow..

    Now in the case of the BaaBaas, the guys had fun all week, so spirits were up, the minds were focused… and for that I give a lot of credit to Nick Mallett…

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    13 – Who was the killjoy who said the Barbarian Team would just spend all week drinking before the game then pocket the match fee?

    As training goes it seemed to work!! 😆

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    14@ Carol – Maybe the All Blacks also drank all week…. hehehe

  • 16

    The first time that I read such a long article (sorry SuperBul I didn’t read all of your monologue!). Very interesting and indeed I must agree with the broad sentiment in the article. However, I feel that the end-of-year tours are essential otherwise we in the southern hemisphere will isolate ourselves. It will be boring to only see Bokke-Wallas-ABs playing in tests. Therefore; the rest must come in the local competition, sorry Currycup, but this my opinion! And in SA we need to develop the squad system properly. It is either overdone or nothing is done. That is why we do not have a 2nd tier group of players of note.

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    15 – GBS
    I wonder who would win in a Pint for Pint contest…..Barbarians or AB’s…..would it be to do with BMI?
    You are familiar with BMI in South Africa I presume?

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    Well…I dont talk about my BMI in polite company.

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    The last time there was this huge debate about overtraining and playing, I came out fully in support of Tim Noakes theories…and used Butch James as my example. A lot of people said the games he plays now are less intense….but where is he, injured for the last 7 months. When the body is under abnormal stress, little stress fractures start appearing everywhere and eventually the “aeroplanes wing just falls off”. In the late 80’s roofies coming into the defence force were breaking limbs at a rate exponentially greater than their predecessors….what eventually came out of the mix was a thing called “tv legs syndrome” with tv arriving in SA SA youngsters who formerly would be outside playing contact sports, were inside watching tv and of course werent as robust as their Dads say. So my belief is “conditioning is of prime importancde, but no matter how much you condition people the breakdown point comes at some stage”…nationalities have something to do with it. to make my point succinctly watch johnny Wilkinson in the 6 Nations, no matter how much that man conditions himself…he is gentically predisposed to break down.

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    17@ Carol – BMI???

    I know about BMT, BMW, PMS… but not BMI

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    20- BMI = Body Mass Index = Ratio between weight and height.
    Although rugby players are often classed as obese on this scale as they have more muscle than fat and are very fit (but muscle weighs more than fat)!!
    This is my simplistic explanation!

    What do you know about PMS? 🙂

  • 22

    The content of these debates is of an exceptional quality. Once again Rugby-talk shows itself to be a site with real credibility as a rugby information portal par excellence. Tim’s facts and figures make compelling reading, and how can anyone argue against such insight and knowledge?
    I don’t possess the background nor abilities to analyse fitness and conditioning as thoroughly as Tim does, so I would merely accede to his musings and say they look totally credible and believable to me. We do need to ensure the health and well-being of our much-loved players. They are the thoroughbreds of our game and if we seek to demand great things from them, then they are entitled to demand certain things back, particularly when too much game time impacts on their bodies today and tomorrow.

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    Carol @ 22 – I only recently had my BMI checked by the dietitian and what a shock that was! It’s not the body fat that is the problem – I need to grow another 15 cms in height – and fast!!

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    18 – Polite company 4man, come now…..you are amongst friends!!
    You are built like a racing snake!

    24 – Old Griquas – I hate to tell you, this may be difficult at your age!

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    SuperBul

    “I see that Graham Henry also complains about tiredness, is this now because they lost their first game?” was unfair.

    Ted commented on exhuastion before the French test which is why their explosive result surpirsed me. ABs played 6 tests is 6 weeks – after a tough 3N. Some players like Brad Thorn have played a HUGE number of minutes of test rugby this year, yet they still managed to secure 5 wins from 6 tests in 6 weeks – not a bad result for a bunch of tired boys 😉

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    oohh & Thornie who will be 35 yers old in February has played at least 65 mins if not the entire 80 minutes of all every test match in 13 tests since June – not bad for an old boy …

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    26
    That question was a snipe at the article and not GH.

    But i went back a bit and read the article here by Morne on the 18th of November, ”We have been warned”
    By Morné, on 18 November 2009, at 11:34 am

    All i can say is if everyone here then agree that we are playing too much rugby, and that the only reason we lost on the EOY tour was tiredness. What would we really accept?

    Playing some tests with our dirt trackers
    Have longer periods of NO rugby
    No Springboks in Currie Cup, a final played with 15 000 to 25 000 spectators.
    Certain games in Super14 without your star players.

    All i can say is that players have a certain “rack life” use them and then replace them. Bring in young vibrant players in. Do this gradually and your team will renewed fresh and full of new ideas.Dont let sentiments keep players in the team for too long, like with Percy Montgomery, Maruis Joubert and De Wet Barry.

    Who misses MJ and DWB? The fresh replacements are now the stars. So might Juan de Jong and WO be within a year if we say goodbye to JdV and JF.

  • 28

    Also let me remind everyone the AB,s rested their players too. Do you remember we only won the S14 because the AB players was out for the first part of it. 😆

    One faaarked ref took out the ABs challenge and not the fatigue.

    We nearly lost against Tonga , struggled against Fiji with our well rested team, to claim our WC win because of the rest is far fetched.

  • 29

    I agree 100% with Tim Noakes. I really like the idea of having the second stringers(not PDV’s 3rd and 4th stringers) Practise together under a proper coaching structure, and attend to the NH end of year tour.

  • 30

    Agreeing with Tim is okay, now lets see how we accept the implementation of all the plans. We have now about 99% agreeing with this article.

    Lets see if 99% of us accept a Bok team without half the current players.

    Lets see who goes to Loftus, Ellispark or Newlands for a Currie cup game without the Boks. Surely not 99% of all the spectators that supported them this year.

    The Problem lies with too much tests, Why play Aus and NZ 3 times every year, we had this debate. The answer is clear. The money coming in from TV rights for the Tri Nations and Super 14 makes SANZAR rugby exist.

    Like India is ruining world Cricket with the cancelling of Tests for the more lucrative TV deals and 20/20 games, so is the TV money doing to Rugby. It is plain and simple to me , the salaries might be a bit smaller but the life span of a player might be longer. Do not let TV bosses dictate Rugby.

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