The first of 4 full blown 5-day Tests between the Proteas and England at SuperSport Park, Centurion on 16 December 2009 at 10:30 SA Time. This is the match thread for the game which will have some score updates from time to time.
Test Drawn:
| South Africa 1st innings | R | M | B | 4s | 6s | SR | ||
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GC Smith* | c †Prior b Broad | 0 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0.00 |
| 1.3 my goodness me, what a stunning moment for England, and what a breakthrough. Nothing much of a delivery, swinging gently down the leg side, but Smith tries to help it down to fine leg, doesn’t get enough bat on it, and Matt Prior leaps like a rampant salmon to snaffle the first wicket of the series! 1/1 | ||||||||
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AG Prince | c Collingwood b Swann | 45 | 155 | 94 | 6 | 0 | 47.87 |
| 34.2 wow, he’s done it again! Swann has a penchant for early breakthroughs, and that’s a cracker. Perfect length, sharp and unexpected turn, and Paul Collingwood coolly accepts his second catch of the innings! 93/3 | ||||||||
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HM Amla | c Collingwood b Onions | 19 | 88 | 67 | 2 | 0 | 28.35 |
| 20.5 Got him this time! Onions deserved that. Full and Amla is drawn into a firm drive but edges to Collingwood. Good low catch there going to his right 51/2 | ||||||||
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JH Kallis | c Collingwood b Anderson | 120 | 306 | 225 | 16 | 1 | 53.33 |
| 96.6 my goodness me, it’s a breakthrough! I did not see that coming. Kallis was looking utterly serene, but Anderson found a good length with a hint of extra bounce and a fraction of away movement, and Collingwood at second slip scooped another fine low catch 283/5 | ||||||||
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AB de Villiers | c Cook b Swann | 32 | 82 | 66 | 5 | 0 | 48.48 |
| 54.3 gone this time! Thrown up and gets the inside edge from de Villiers’s defensive stroke and goes straight to Cook at short leg. Bit of turn and extra bounce, classic offspinner’s delivery. England really needed that. 159/4 | ||||||||
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JP Duminy | c Collingwood b Swann | 56 | 218 | 150 | 6 | 1 | 37.33 |
| 108.5 Swann does it again! He has a real habit of getting a wicket early in his spell. Nicely flighted, finds a little turn and Duminy, leaning forward with a slightly open face, guides it to Collingwood at slip who makes no mistake 316/6 | ||||||||
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MV Boucher† | c Cook b Swann | 49 | 156 | 100 | 6 | 0 | 49.00 |
| 134.1 Swann does the trick again. Regulation offspinners wicket. Pitched outside off stump, spun back sharply, caught the inside edge, and it went straight to Cook, who snaffles it gleefully. Unlucky for Boucher to fall one run short of 50 and England continue to stay just in reach of South Africa 377/8 | ||||||||
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M Morkel | c †Prior b Onions | 13 | 53 | 48 | 2 | 0 | 27.08 |
| 121.5 he’s gone this time! Still feeling the effects of that blow, perhaps, as that was a bit of a flat-footed waft, and a thin low snick to the keeper, who gathers well 341/7 | ||||||||
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PL Harris | b Onions | 38 | 117 | 89 | 4 | 0 | 42.69 |
| 150.5 oh, and that is out. Floated up outside off stump, Harris wafted, stood firmly in his crease, and inside edged in on to the base of the stumps. 414/9 | ||||||||
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F de Wet | lbw b Swann | 20 | 78 | 67 | 3 | 0 | 29.85 |
| 153.2 review. Gets well back and is struck plumb in front. de Wet calls for a review, since South Africa have one in the bank, but third umpire confirms the decision. Swann has five, the third time he’s managed that in his career. 418/10 | ||||||||
| M Ntini | not out | 4 | 9 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 57.14 | |
| Extras | (b 2, lb 15, w 5) | 22 | ||||||
| Total | (all out; 153.2 overs; 640 mins) | 418 | (2.72 runs per over) | |||||
| Bowling | O | M | R | W | Econ | |||
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JM Anderson | 37 | 9 | 104 | 1 | 2.81 | (1w) | |
| 96.6 to Kallis, my goodness me, it’s a breakthrough! I did not see that coming. Kallis was looking utterly serene, but Anderson found a good length with a hint of extra bounce and a fraction of away movement, and Collingwood at second slip scooped another fine low catch 283/5 | ||||||||
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SCJ Broad | 32 | 8 | 74 | 1 | 2.31 | (2w) | |
| 1.3 to Smith, my goodness me, what a stunning moment for England, and what a breakthrough. Nothing much of a delivery, swinging gently down the leg side, but Smith tries to help it down to fine leg, doesn’t get enough bat on it, and Matt Prior leaps like a rampant salmon to snaffle the first wicket of the series! 1/1 | ||||||||
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G Onions | 30 | 5 | 86 | 3 | 2.86 | (2w) | |
| 20.5 to Amla, Got him this time! Onions deserved that. Full and Amla is drawn into a firm drive but edges to Collingwood. Good low catch there going to his right 51/2121.5 to Morkel, he’s gone this time! Still feeling the effects of that blow, perhaps, as that was a bit of a flat-footed waft, and a thin low snick to the keeper, who gathers well 341/7150.5 to Harris, oh, and that is out. Floated up outside off stump, Harris wafted, stood firmly in his crease, and inside edged in on to the base of the stumps. 414/9 | ||||||||
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GP Swann | 45.2 | 10 | 110 | 5 | 2.42 | ||
| 34.2 to Prince, wow, he’s done it again! Swann has a penchant for early breakthroughs, and that’s a cracker. Perfect length, sharp and unexpected turn, and Paul Collingwood coolly accepts his second catch of the innings! 93/354.3 to de Villiers, gone this time! Thrown up and gets the inside edge from de Villiers’s defensive stroke and goes straight to Cook at short leg. Bit of turn and extra bounce, classic offspinner’s delivery. England really needed that. 159/4108.5 to Duminy, Swann does it again! He has a real habit of getting a wicket early in his spell. Nicely flighted, finds a little turn and Duminy, leaning forward with a slightly open face, guides it to Collingwood at slip who makes no mistake 316/6134.1 to Boucher, Swann does the trick again. Regulation offspinners wicket. Pitched outside off stump, spun back sharply, caught the inside edge, and it went straight to Cook, who snaffles it gleefully. Unlucky for Boucher to fall one run short of 50 and England continue to stay just in reach of South Africa 377/8153.2 to de Wet, review. Gets well back and is struck plumb in front. de Wet calls for a review, since South Africa have one in the bank, but third umpire confirms the decision. Swann has five, the third time he’s managed that in his career. 418/10 | ||||||||
| PD Collingwood | 7 | 1 | 18 | 0 | 2.57 | |||
| IJL Trott | 2 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 4.50 | |||
| England 1st innings | R | M | B | 4s | 6s | SR | ||
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AJ Strauss* | b Ntini | 46 | 138 | 87 | 6 | 0 | 52.87 |
| 28.6 got him! Excellent length again, and this time it keeps low once more. Strauss was in position but the ball skimmed through at shin height, and demolished the off stump! 98/2 | ||||||||
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AN Cook | c †Boucher b de Wet | 15 | 26 | 17 | 3 | 0 | 88.23 |
| 5.4 there it is! Friedel de Wet has his maiden Test wicket, as Cook pushes at an off-stump delivery, and feathers the thinnest of edges through to Boucher 25/1 | ||||||||
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IJL Trott | b Harris | 28 | 170 | 117 | 3 | 0 | 23.93 |
| 41.5 oh dear. Trott runs down at Harris and swipes wildly, beaten on the inside edge, looking for turn that wasn’t there. 119/3 | ||||||||
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KP Pietersen | b Morkel | 40 | 113 | 79 | 3 | 1 | 50.63 |
| 54.5 that’s the breakthrough, and it’s a huge scalp! Back on that probing length from Morkel, and just a hint of nip off the seam. Pietersen couldn’t resist any longer, climbed into an expansive drive, and inside-edged onto his off stump! 168/4 | ||||||||
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PD Collingwood | c Kallis b Harris | 50 | 133 | 88 | 5 | 1 | 56.81 |
| 71.6 lovely bowling defeats Collingwood! Flighted, it gripped and actually spun, enough to get the outside edge of Collingwood’s defensive shot and it went low to Kallis who makes no mistake 221/7 | ||||||||
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IR Bell | b Harris | 5 | 23 | 16 | 0 | 0 | 31.25 |
| 59.5 oh my goodness me, that is hideous! Shades of Adam Hollioake in 1997 as Bell shoulders arms to a straight delivery, and has all three stumps demolished! 189/5 | ||||||||
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MJ Prior† | c de Wet b Harris | 4 | 44 | 34 | 0 | 0 | 11.76 |
| 69.6 oh dear oh dear. Prior goes for an expansive sweep, and Harris finds some extra bounce, it catches the top edge and loops down to de Wet, the only man deep on the leg side, at fine leg. England in all sorts of trouble here and Harris has been the destroyer. 211/6 | ||||||||
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SCJ Broad | lbw b Duminy | 17 | 34 | 34 | 2 | 0 | 50.00 |
| 78.5 oh close lbw appeal. Good length ball beat the bat and rapped Broad on the pads. Finally they ask for a review and it looks very close on replay, and he’s given. 242/8 | ||||||||
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GP Swann | c Smith b Harris | 85 | 139 | 81 | 10 | 2 | 104.93 |
| 103.6 Ah, it’s all over now. Swann attempts a big sweep but picks out deep square leg to give Harris a well-deserved fifth wicket. Swann shakes Harris’s hand, in a gesture of finger-spinning solidarity. 356/10 | ||||||||
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JM Anderson | c Morkel b Ntini | 29 | 104 | 78 | 4 | 1 | 37.17 |
| 102.1 well, what’s happened here? Anderson miscued an attempted forcing shot off the back foot, and it’s looped to cover. For some reason there is a referral, but the ball carried easily to a diving Morkel. Anderson can go and rest his hand now, but that has been a remarkable partnership. 348/9 | ||||||||
| G Onions | not out | 4 | 7 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 80.00 | |
| Extras | (b 8, lb 8, w 5, nb 12) | 33 | ||||||
| Total | (all out; 104 overs; 472 mins) | 356 | (3.42 runs per over) | |||||
| Bowling | O | M | R | W | Econ | |||
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M Ntini | 23 | 4 | 78 | 2 | 3.39 | ||
| 28.6 to Strauss, got him! Excellent length again, and this time it keeps low once more. Strauss was in position but the ball skimmed through at shin height, and demolished the off stump! 98/2102.1 to Anderson, well, what’s happened here? Anderson miscued an attempted forcing shot off the back foot, and it’s looped to cover. For some reason there is a referral, but the ball carried easily to a diving Morkel. Anderson can go and rest his hand now, but that has been a remarkable partnership. 348/9 | ||||||||
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F de Wet | 20 | 3 | 72 | 1 | 3.60 | (6nb, 1w) | |
| 5.4 to Cook, there it is! Friedel de Wet has his maiden Test wicket, as Cook pushes at an off-stump delivery, and feathers the thinnest of edges through to Boucher 25/1 | ||||||||
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M Morkel | 21 | 0 | 60 | 1 | 2.85 | (6nb) | |
| 54.5 to Pietersen, that’s the breakthrough, and it’s a huge scalp! Back on that probing length from Morkel, and just a hint of nip off the seam. Pietersen couldn’t resist any longer, climbed into an expansive drive, and inside-edged onto his off stump! 168/4 | ||||||||
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PL Harris | 37 | 10 | 123 | 5 | 3.32 | ||
| 41.5 to Trott, oh dear. Trott runs down at Harris and swipes wildly, beaten on the inside edge, looking for turn that wasn’t there. 119/359.5 to Bell, oh my goodness me, that is hideous! Shades of Adam Hollioake in 1997 as Bell shoulders arms to a straight delivery, and has all three stumps demolished! 189/569.6 to Prior, oh dear oh dear. Prior goes for an expansive sweep, and Harris finds some extra bounce, it catches the top edge and loops down to de Wet, the only man deep on the leg side, at fine leg. England in all sorts of trouble here and Harris has been the destroyer. 211/671.6 to Collingwood, lovely bowling defeats Collingwood! Flighted, it gripped and actually spun, enough to get the outside edge of Collingwood’s defensive shot and it went low to Kallis who makes no mistake 221/7103.6 to Swann, Ah, it’s all over now. Swann attempts a big sweep but picks out deep square leg to give Harris a well-deserved fifth wicket. Swann shakes Harris’s hand, in a gesture of finger-spinning solidarity. 356/10 | ||||||||
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JP Duminy | 3 | 0 | 7 | 1 | 2.33 | ||
| 78.5 to Broad, oh close lbw appeal. Good length ball beat the bat and rapped Broad on the pads. Finally they ask for a review and it looks very close on replay, and he’s given. 242/8 | ||||||||
| South Africa 2nd innings | R | M | B | 4s | 6s | SR | ||
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AG Prince | b Anderson | 0 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0.00 |
| 0.6 gone! Fullish on off stump, shaping back at Prince, and it catches the inside edge on to off stump. Great start for England 2/1 | ||||||||
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GC Smith* | b Onions | 12 | 53 | 36 | 1 | 0 | 33.33 |
| 11.2 that is a severely important wicket for England, and once again, it’s that low bounce that does the trick. Onions uses the over-the-wicket line to drag Smith forward, but the ball doesn’t get up, and burrows into his middle-and-off stumps via a thin inside-edge! 34/3 | ||||||||
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PL Harris | b Anderson | 11 | 26 | 17 | 2 | 0 | 64.70 |
| 6.5 got him! Not sure how because that was angling safely down the leg side, but his leg stump has been knocked back. In fact, it’s clipped the underside of his thighpad, and deflected improbably back into his wicket. 20/2 | ||||||||
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HM Amla | b Anderson | 100 | 315 | 213 | 10 | 0 | 46.94 |
| 81.5 there’s the shooter! And that will not please Andrew Strauss in the slightest, given that he – in all likelihood – will have to bat before the day is done. There’s no way to combat that, as the off stump is demolished at bootlace height. The hard new ball hits a crack, skids through, and a fine innings is over 266/7 | ||||||||
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JH Kallis | c Cook b Broad | 4 | 45 | 32 | 0 | 0 | 12.50 |
| 21.3 big moment in this game! Broad digs one in, Kallis rocks back and tries to break the shackles with an expansive pull shot, but it comes off the top edge and flies down to Alastair Cook at deep square-leg, who takes a well judged catch. 46/4 | ||||||||
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AB de Villiers | c Bell b Broad | 64 | 136 | 101 | 6 | 1 | 63.36 |
| 55.4 and that’s gone! Broad was probing away, trying to contrive something, and a fullish delivery stops on the wicket a touch, and de Villiers drives a fraction in the air, where Bell takes an excellent diving catch at short extra cover. 165/5 | ||||||||
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JP Duminy | lbw b Anderson | 11 | 33 | 27 | 2 | 0 | 40.74 |
| 63.5 big appeal, given out, and it’s gone to review. Swinging back a fraction into Duminy and strikes him in front, it looks very close. Replays show it clipping the top of the stumps. Duminy thought he could have inside-edged it, but there is no clear evidence to suggest he did. Third umpire rules in favour of England, and Duminy has gone. 191/6 | ||||||||
| MV Boucher† | not out | 63 | 96 | 73 | 9 | 1 | 86.30 | |
| M Morkel | not out | 22 | 21 | 13 | 4 | 0 | 169.23 | |
| Extras | (lb 10, w 4) | 14 | ||||||
| Total | (7 wickets dec; 85.5 overs; 368 mins) | 301 | (3.50 runs per over) | |||||
| Did not bat M Ntini, F de Wet |
| Fall of wickets1-2 (Prince, 0.6 ov), 2-20 (Harris, 6.5 ov), 3-34 (Smith, 11.2 ov), 4-46 (Kallis, 21.3 ov), 5-165 (de Villiers, 55.4 ov), 6-191 (Duminy, 63.5 ov), 7-266 (Amla, 81.5 ov) |
| Bowling | O | M | R | W | Econ | |||
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JM Anderson | 20.5 | 1 | 73 | 4 | 3.50 | ||
| 0.6 to Prince, gone! Fullish on off stump, shaping back at Prince, and it catches the inside edge on to off stump. Great start for England 2/16.5 to Harris, got him! Not sure how because that was angling safely down the leg side, but his leg stump has been knocked back. In fact, it’s clipped the underside of his thighpad, and deflected improbably back into his wicket. 20/263.5 to Duminy, big appeal, given out, and it’s gone to review. Swinging back a fraction into Duminy and strikes him in front, it looks very close. Replays show it clipping the top of the stumps. Duminy thought he could have inside-edged it, but there is no clear evidence to suggest he did. Third umpire rules in favour of England, and Duminy has gone. 191/681.5 to Amla, there’s the shooter! And that will not please Andrew Strauss in the slightest, given that he – in all likelihood – will have to bat before the day is done. There’s no way to combat that, as the off stump is demolished at bootlace height. The hard new ball hits a crack, skids through, and a fine innings is over 266/7 | ||||||||
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G Onions | 16 | 3 | 50 | 1 | 3.12 | ||
| 11.2 to Smith, that is a severely important wicket for England, and once again, it’s that low bounce that does the trick. Onions uses the over-the-wicket line to drag Smith forward, but the ball doesn’t get up, and burrows into his middle-and-off stumps via a thin inside-edge! 34/3 | ||||||||
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SCJ Broad | 16 | 5 | 58 | 2 | 3.62 | (2w) | |
| 21.3 to Kallis, big moment in this game! Broad digs one in, Kallis rocks back and tries to break the shackles with an expansive pull shot, but it comes off the top edge and flies down to Alastair Cook at deep square-leg, who takes a well judged catch. 46/455.4 to de Villiers, and that’s gone! Broad was probing away, trying to contrive something, and a fullish delivery stops on the wicket a touch, and de Villiers drives a fraction in the air, where Bell takes an excellent diving catch at short extra cover. 165/5 | ||||||||
| GP Swann | 27 | 3 | 91 | 0 | 3.37 | |||
| PD Collingwood | 6 | 1 | 19 | 0 | 3.16 | |||
| England 2nd innings (target: 364 runs) | R | M | B | 4s | 6s | SR | ||
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AJ Strauss* | c †Boucher b Morkel | 1 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 33.33 |
| 1.2 got him! Huge wicket for South Africa and a massive moment in this Test. Morkel from around the wicket, lands one just back of a length, and it leaves Strauss slightly, catching a faint edge on the way through an ecstatic Boucher. 5/1 | ||||||||
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AN Cook | c Smith b Harris | 12 | 78 | 56 | 1 | 0 | 21.42 |
| 18.2 there’s the breakthrough! Cook tries to get outside off and work the ball to leg, but there’s a bit of turn to take the glove, lob off the pad flap, and into the stretching right hand of Graeme Smith at leg slip! 27/3 | ||||||||
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JM Anderson | c †Boucher b de Wet | 10 | 28 | 23 | 2 | 0 | 43.47 |
| 8.1 de Wet strikes! A short ball, outside leg stump, seemingly innocuous. But it climbs into the glove as Anderson attempts a leg-glance, and Boucher claims a simple strangle! 16/2 | ||||||||
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IJL Trott | c de Villiers b de Wet | 69 | 316 | 212 | 7 | 0 | 32.54 |
| 81.4 stunner! Great catch from AB de Villiers, a shortish ball leapt off a length and flew off the shoulder of Trott’s bat to third slip, where de Villiers dived back and to his left, to claim a brilliant one-handed catch. 205/5 | ||||||||
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KP Pietersen | run out (de Wet) | 81 | 191 | 143 | 11 | 0 | 56.64 |
| 61.5 from de Wet, that is an extraordinary misjudgment from Pietersen! A tap into the covers, a head-down sprint to the other end, and Trott just stands there in bemusement. He never took so much as a step out of his crease! 172/4 | ||||||||
| PD Collingwood | not out | 26 | 159 | 99 | 6 | 0 | 26.26 | |
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IR Bell | c †Boucher b de Wet | 2 | 17 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 20.00 |
| 85.2 Bell has gone! South Africa still in with a chance. Bell just needed to bat out the overs but has a just hung his bat outside off stump and it’s found the edge on the way through to a diving Boucher. 10.4 overs left, game on! 207/6 | ||||||||
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MJ Prior† | c †Boucher b de Wet | 0 | 12 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0.00 |
| 87.5 great bowling and South Africa are right in this! On off stump and it climbed at Prior who just followed the ball a tad, and it found the edge, where Boucher took the catch. 208/7 | ||||||||
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SCJ Broad | c †Boucher b Harris | 0 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0.00 |
| 88.4 flighted, caught the edge outside off stump, and clearly gone. 209/8 | ||||||||
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GP Swann | lbw b Morkel | 2 | 22 | 15 | 0 | 0 | 13.33 |
| 92.5 replays show it was crashing into leg stump and Swann has gone. Vital strike and huge disappointment for Swann, who has done so much for England in this Test. 218/9 | ||||||||
| G Onions | not out | 1 | 19 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 8.33 | |
| Extras | (b 10, lb 3, nb 11) | 24 | ||||||
| Total | (9 wickets; 96 overs; 432 mins) | 228 | (2.37 runs per over) | |||||
| Bowling | O | M | R | W | Econ | |||
| M Ntini | 18 | 7 | 41 | 0 | 2.27 | (1nb) | ||
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M Morkel | 18 | 3 | 46 | 2 | 2.55 | (7nb) | |
| 1.2 to Strauss, got him! Huge wicket for South Africa and a massive moment in this Test. Morkel from around the wicket, lands one just back of a length, and it leaves Strauss slightly, catching a faint edge on the way through an ecstatic Boucher. 5/192.5 to Swann, replays show it was crashing into leg stump and Swann has gone. Vital strike and huge disappointment for Swann, who has done so much for England in this Test. 218/9 | ||||||||
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PL Harris | 26 | 11 | 51 | 2 | 1.96 | ||
| 18.2 to Cook, there’s the breakthrough! Cook tries to get outside off and work the ball to leg, but there’s a bit of turn to take the glove, lob off the pad flap, and into the stretching right hand of Graeme Smith at leg slip! 27/388.4 to Broad, flighted, caught the edge outside off stump, and clearly gone. 209/8 | ||||||||
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F de Wet | 23 | 8 | 55 | 4 | 2.39 | (3nb) | |
| 8.1 to Anderson, de Wet strikes! A short ball, outside leg stump, seemingly innocuous. But it climbs into the glove as Anderson attempts a leg-glance, and Boucher claims a simple strangle! 16/281.4 to Trott, stunner! Great catch from AB de Villiers, a shortish ball leapt off a length and flew off the shoulder of Trott’s bat to third slip, where de Villiers dived back and to his left, to claim a brilliant one-handed catch. 205/585.2 to Bell, Bell has gone! South Africa still in with a chance. Bell just needed to bat out the overs but has a just hung his bat outside off stump and it’s found the edge on the way through to a diving Boucher. 10.4 overs left, game on! 207/687.5 to Prior, great bowling and South Africa are right in this! On off stump and it climbed at Prior who just followed the ball a tad, and it found the edge, where Boucher took the catch. 208/7 | ||||||||
| JP Duminy | 8 | 2 | 17 | 0 | 2.12 | |||
| JH Kallis | 3 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 1.66 | |||
| Match details |
| Toss England, who chose to field Series 4-match series level 0-0 |
| Test debut F de Wet (South Africa) Player of the match GP Swann (England) |
| Umpires Aleem Dar (Pakistan) and SJ Davis (Australia) TV umpire AM Saheba (India) Match referee RS Mahanama (Sri Lanka) Reserve umpire BG Jerling |
| Close of play 16 Dec day 1 – South Africa 1st innings 262/4 (JH Kallis 112*, JP Duminy 38*, 90 ov) 17 Dec day 2 – England 1st innings 88/1 (AJ Strauss 44*, IJL Trott 18*, 23 ov) 18 Dec day 3 – South Africa 2nd innings 9/1 (GC Smith 6*, PL Harris 2*, 4 ov) 19 Dec day 4 – England 2nd innings 11/1 (AN Cook 4*, JM Anderson 6*, 6 ov) 20 Dec day 5 – England 2nd innings 228/9 (96 ov) – end of match |
Amla and AB are doing well. Holding the ship there.
Still think this will end in a draw. They say it will rain tomorrow in Pretoria. Then it was supposed to rain there today and it is full sun and very hot.
420 Puma
We get it mainly from green leafy vegetables. Same as the cows 😆
African blacks traditionally don`t suffer bone diseases like osteoporosis. And they don`t drink milk.
Thay call milk the white mans` poison.
Countries which produces the most milk, like in the Netherlands, suffer the most from bone diseases.
422 – The-Pill, I know you get a lot of calcium from Brocolli. I hate it though 😀
Did you know that green vegetables actually thickens the blood? Bet you never knew that one 😉
SA lead now by more than 200.
Wonder when we will declare? Think once we get to 300 we should. Need time to bowl them out and there is going to be rain tomorrow.
Puma. I know that they contain vitamin k, but not sure about problems arising from blood thickening.Will look into that.
But again, moderation is the key to be healthy.
AB out on 64. Just before tea too. Damn.
SA lead by 224.
425 – The-Pill yes that is why green veg thickens the blood. It is the Vitamin k in it. Thick blood can cause thrombosis.
Puma. Vitamin K is a good thing and only becomes problematic when a person is suffering from some diseases that require blood thinning agents.
There are a number of diseases that require the circulating blood to be thinner than normal to prevent the risk of developing blood clots:
•Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT)
•Pulmonary Embolism (PE)
•Strokes
•Cardiovascular Disease
So other than that, go green!
427 – Can only cause thrombosis if you are overweight and not moving about. Like being sick and having to be in bed for a long time.
428 – The-Pill, I got DVT flying to Spain in 2004. I was not allowed to eat any green veg while I had the clot. Was on the dreaded warfarin for 6 months until it went.
Now can eat green veg. Also when I fly now make sure I wear those flight socks.
Vitamin K is a necessary component of the body’s ability to clot blood. Without this function, a simple cut could result in uncontrolled bleeding. In addition, vitamin K has an important role in the formation of bone. Higher levels of vitamin K mean more calcium in the bone, increased bone density, and less risk of fractures.
Puma. Flight socks??
There is a chance that i will fly to America in the new year. Please explain more!
431 – Pill, Yes we need vit K to make sure our blood clots. Just don’t go over board with the green veg if you are sick and in bed and not moving about. Then it will be a problem the thick blood.
When I had my dvt and on warfarin, if I ate green veg my PI would jump to 70 or 80. It had to stay between 40 and 50 until my clot went. Was a horrible time. They never stablized me with the warfarin so had to have my blood taken every week to get the pathologist to phone we with the right dose to take for the week.
Now will never ever fly without wearing my flight socks. NOT EVER. I always fly business class too. So it is not just people sitting in economy class that gets dvt. If you don’t move about when you fly you can get it.
432 – The-Pill, Get your flight socks and not the ones from the pharmacy. They are useless. Rather get them from a orthocast they are normally in every hospital. They measure your ankle and fit you with the correct pair.
Flight Socks help the blood circulate up to the heart.
You need to walk about the plane a lot if you are flying to America that is a long flight. Or if you sitting just keep moving the ankles. Toes to the floor and heels up do that about 10 times and the lift your leg up and circle your foot about. That helps keep the circulation going. Drink plenty, plenty water. Dehydration can cause dvt too. Go for a walk around the whole length of the plane every 2hours. Try not to fall asleep for long periods.
Puma.
What does the socks do?
Pill – start haveing a disprin a day if you going to be flying in the New Year, keep the blood flowing properly or something.
Doctor told me years ago when i did a lot of travelling and everyone i know does the disprin thing. My mothers ancient and still flies overseas twice a year and does the disprin.
434 Puma- Ok thanks.
Recently i took the bus ( ja i know, what was i thinking ) and it`s a wonder that i didn`t get DVT. The seats are so uncomfortable when you are a big oke.
And there is no moving about either.
Oh and howzat guys
Hi Treehugs.
Disprin is a big no-no for me. Caused a ulcer a few years back.
I do not take any pills 😆 Ja that is rather funny.
235 – Pill, The flight socks help the blood circulate proper to the heart.
Take a mini aspirin like the coated one ecotrin (asprin can cause ulcer but not ecotrin apsrin as it is coated) Take a ecotrin apspirin for about 5 days before you fly and 5 days after you land. Then for 5 days before you fly back and 5 days after you get back.
My vascular suregeon said that aspirin only really helps the artery section and not so much the venious vein but it kinda helps a bit so take it. You must wear flight socks. Very important. Everyone wears them now.
439 – I am The-Pill!
Pillie you not supposed to eat them like sweeties lol
440 – overlook the typos there. 😀
Puma no one even notices the typos 🙂
437 – Pill, Driving from Durbs to Joburg without stopping can cause dvt. You need to stop about 3 times and have a little walk. Stretch the calves to get the blood circulating. Even sitting at the computer for long periods could cause a dvt. Need to get up and walk about a bit.
Remember a thrombosis starts in the ankle area so keep them moving.
443 – 😆
439 – Pill, Ecotrin is a min aspirin. 80mg and it is coated. Should not hurt the stomache.
RED WINE thins the blood 😀 Only if you have two glasses more then it dehydrates you.
Treehugs – I didn`t. Guess i have a sensitive stomach.
So two of myo favorite movies were on tv last night Black Hawk Down and Resevoir Dogs but not on dstv and was shocked at all the porn ads they show on Etv. Watched Back Hawk Down again till One in the morning. Saw some of the soldiers interviewed on Larry king years ago.
Pill, nay you just didnt coat your stomach lineing with milk lol
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