From News 24
Jaque Fourie does not have a standard players contract with the Golden Lions Rugby Union (GLRU) and that is just one of the reasons he believes his agreement with the union is not binding. He is also believed to be tired of having to play above himself to carry the Lions along with a handful of team-mates, and is said to be tired of the losing culture of the union. Fourie wants to leave the Lions to join Western Province, so that he can play for the Stormers next year.
Arbitration in the dispute between Fourie and the GLRU ended in Johannesburg on Tuesday, but a finding is only expected early next week. Information at Sport24’s disposal suggests that Fourie has a strong case.
The collective agreement between the South African Rugby Players’ Association (Sarpa) and the South African Rugby Employers Organisation (Sareo) determines that rugby unions must enter into agreements with players on standard players contracts.
Sports24 revealed the following:
-Fourie does not have a standard players contract with the union. He did, however, enter into an agreement with them on August 11, 2008.
– Sareo already on June 26, 2008 sent the standard players contract and new collective agreement to rugby unions, and there was no reason for the GLRU to not apply it to Fourie.
– The agreement that Fourie reached with the GLRU does not stipulate his remuneration for the second year of the so-called contract. Furthermore, the terms of his remuneration such as allowances, deductions, match fees and bonuses have not been filled in.
– Fourie’s contract with the GLRU indicates that he has been appointed as a “professional analyst” and not a rugby player.
The Springbok centre believes his relationship with the GLRU has broken down because he was prevented from joining French club Clermont earlier this year and his salary for next season was not revised.
Fourie apparently followed grievance procedures, but talks with Lions chief executive Manie Reyneke and union consultant Jake White did not solve the problems.
He is tired of the losing culture at the union, which is preventing him from reaching his professional, personal and financial goals.
Sarpa chief executive Piet Heymans called on rugby unions and player agents to use the standard players contract.
“All the parties have to do on the standard players contract is to fill in the remuneration and the term. The rest is determined by a broad process of negotiations between Sarpa and Sareo. The provinces should take cognisance of the collective agreement, of which the standard contract is an attachment,” said Heymans.
Sport24 has learned that six Lions players do not have standard contracts. Willem Alberts and Louis Ludik are also among them. Both have offers from the Sharks.
A question. Are they busy with a grievance procedure or a process to decide if he has a valid contract?
Jan is moeg en ek ook. :yawn:
@dWeePer – think it’s to decide whether the contract is binding.
ja nee….i think he is making a mistake. the lions are on a huge turn around and what better way to prove your self than being part of that….imo. he is also contradicting himself because wp and stormers are not exactly setting the rugby world alight. if he was going to either bulls or sharks then jes he has a valid reason.
“He is tired of the losing culture at the union, which is preventing him from reaching his professional, personal and financial goals.”
Huh? Since Fourie started playing WP/Stormers has achieved nothing more than the Lions? Maybe he should ONLY say “FINANCIAL goals”.
Anyway, he has been happily playing in that “losing culture” for years, and now when the Lions seem to be turning things around for the good, he wants to go.
Think is only about the money. He should just say that and go.
4@Martin –
Exactly my point. Well said.
Anyway, I think its too late now…he should go to WP. He has already badmouthed the Lions and refused to come to training with them, so not sure wether things will be the same at the Lions.
@Supa Die Bloubul – there is also probably a difference of opinion with the nobs in charge….but its too late for him now to change his mind. his bridges will be burnt.
Fact is.. Jaque has decided, in his mind he has made that conscious decision…. the rift between him and the Lions is now irreprable…
Laat hy gaan man, flok.
@Supa Die Bloubul – i like it better if we disagree….. :devil:
Its easy. WP pay a R2m tfr fee. Cheers Mossie……. Lions buy Mortlock……with Mortlock and the wealth of young talent things will be goood. We all know what happens with players when they move to CT….we’v seen it. Sorry Habana and Mossie.
@grootblousmile – hy moet gaan maar iemand moet betaal.
but…im not complaining….he will add value to my team :dance:
Ai Supa wie se ons wil hom hier he? 🙂
@K9-MonsterLeeu – hulle maak die bok span???
@K9-MonsterLeeu – Mortlock lmga – jy wens
7@Martin –
The difference between the Bakkies and Jaque saga is that both wanted out, but Bakkies kept on training, playing and being loyal to the Bulls during everything. Fourie is not coming to training, and now making public statements like his “tired of the losing culture” and “tired of playing above himself in a weak team” etc. He should just leave it, see what happens and keep the respect of people.
9@Martin –
Ja, ek was verbaas ek stem saam jou slag…ek voel sommer vuil…
13@Karen –
Rassie.
Terwyl al die groot unions baklei vir spelers – wie koop wie en vir hoeveel etc – wil die Boland spelers op strike gaan voor die playoffs.
@Supa Die Bloubul – :sick:
18 @Supa Die Bloubul – Ja maar dan moet hy eers ‘n beter mullet groei want dit gaan nie by Vermeulen’sn pas nie lmga
@Supa Die Bloubul – Bwaaaahahaha
@Karen – Mortlock is ryp om gepluk te word….watch maar.
@Karen –
Wonder of Habana n mullet kan groei…hehe
@K9-MonsterLeeu – Ja maar dan moet hy moers vinnig hare groei want hy het geen mullet nie en in daai Lions span is ‘n mullet ‘n moet :X-P:
23@K9-MonsterLeeu –
Spencer, Doppies en Mortlock behoort n lekker kombinasie te maak.
@Karen – daar is nokkol mullets in die leeus span. Ettiene Reynecke is nie meer daar nie. WP is die mullet span en bulle die afro span 😆
24 @Supa Die Bloubul – jis dit gaan moeilik wees – sal maar ‘n paar dreadlocks moet insit vir hom.
@Supa Die Bloubul – niks verkeerd met daai combo nie.
@K9-MonsterLeeu –
Wonder hoe sal Chilliboy met so helse afro lyk!
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